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BMO



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Jam and jam-pack Reply with quote

Jammed with people and jam-packed with people, are they the same? Is the latter jammed with more people?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They mean the exact same thing. and you used it correctly in both sentances.

Jammed is more proper to use, if your taking a test for english. Jam-packed is a less formal word in American conversations.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Does pack alone mean the same, as in packed with people?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMO wrote:
Thanks. Does pack alone mean the same, as in packed with people?



Pack as a verb.
Quote:
I will pack my own lunch today


There are few cases where the word "pack" can mean a group.
Quote:
That is a large pack of wolves.
Quote:
Wolfpack
in english, pack, is used to discribe a group of wolves, it cannot be used for groups of other types of animals.

Pack alone is not the same as packed with people.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can say The crowd packed the stadium, can't you. So what is the difference between this and

1. The crowd jam-packed the stadium, or
2. The crowd jammed the stadium.

Pack as a noun:
You can say, a pack of thieves, a pack of wild dogs, a pack of armed robbers.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most natural, I think, are:

"The stadium is packed today." Implied: it's full of people, not potatoes.

"The stadium is jammed." Same.

"The stadium is jam-packed / jam-packed with people." Describes the state of the stadium.

"Ten thousand people jammed into the stadium." Describes what the people did to fill up the stadium.

"The crowd packed into the stadium." Same. Note the use of "indo."

As for "pack," you are right about those uses. There is also "a pack of lies" to describe what some people tell when testifying or telling a story, and "a pack of coyotes / dingoes / hyenas" besides the other canines, wolves and dogs.

Did I mention "pack of cards"?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CP wrote:

"The stadium is jam-packed / jam-packed with people." Describes the state of the stadium.



Can I say "The stadium is packed with people?"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BMO
Quote:
Can I say "The stadium is packed with people?


yes you can say that.

even....
Quote:
"they are packed like sardines." "Japanese subways are packed with people."

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all.

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