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Winkydragonfly

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 392 Location: China
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: Do you think my choice is need? |
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We all know that university entrance examination is quite important for every student.Of course I will have it in three years.There are so many students taking this examination,so, to get a good mark in this exam is not an easy thing,even can say that it is difficult to get a good mark.
It is difficult,so I should study more hard than before.
But how?I decided not to play QQ,everytime if I am on line,I just come here to post something,or go to some web to search something that is helpful for my study.
After school,read more books to expand my knowledge,and not to read the novels... _________________ Winky has made many mistakes in her compositions.Sorry about that.But winky has confidence in herself,she will try to write much better than before. |
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ieltsinsider
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: depends |
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If you are worried about how difficult the Chinese university entrance exam is, you first need to know where you live in China. Then, it's easy to know the answer.
As for preparing for the exam, well, that's just a question of memorisation. |
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RedRose

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2735 Location: GuangZhou, China
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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two days ago, I read a funny post in which the poster said that it's pretty easy to pass Chinese university exames it sounded like the exam's a piece of cake to her but again, I highly doubt she could pass the exam from her choatic logic showed in her posts.
and here in China the university entrance examination is really difficult(of course, if someone says it's easy, that's ok, because she knows she is never gonna take this examination that's her luck ). but for Chinese students, passing the extrance examination seems to be the only access to a prosperous future, oh, not exactly, passing the examination is just the first step to your future, you have to continue studying hard in your university, and if you are an aspirant student, you are supposed to gain higher degrees: Master, Ph,D.
China has so many people, the competition of living is soooo fierce. therefore, Winkydragonfly, you have to go away from QQ, Computer games, and you'd better not be an computer addict, for at least 3 years, and concentrate on your lessons. I think you just have no choice if you wanna get a good mark in your university entrance examination.
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| As for preparing for the exam, well, that's just a question of memorisation. |
Really? how did you know that? have you even experienced such an examination? sorry to let you down. it's not so easy as you imagine. it requires not only good momery, but also the excellent abilities of analyzing and solving questions, you have to be smart and have a clear logic if you wanna pass the hard examination.
Sorry, I have to say these chill words, but that's the reality in China. |
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Winkydragonfly

Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 392 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| RedRose wrote: |
two days ago, I read a funny post in which the poster said that it's pretty easy to pass Chinese university exames it sounded like the exam's a piece of cake to her but again, I highly doubt she could pass the exam from her choatic logic showed in her posts.
and here in China the university entrance examination is really difficult(of course, if someone says it's easy, that's ok, because she knows she is never gonna take this examination that's her luck ). but for Chinese students, passing the extrance examination seems to be the only access to a prosperous future, oh, not exactly, passing the examination is just the first step to your future, you have to continue studying hard in your university, and if you are an aspirant student, you are supposed to gain higher degrees: Master, Ph,D.
China has so many people, the competition of living is soooo fierce. therefore, Winkydragonfly, you have to go away from QQ, Computer games, and you'd better not be an computer addict, for at least 3 years, and concentrate on your lessons. I think you just have no choice if you wanna get a good mark in your university entrance examination.
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| As for preparing for the exam, well, that's just a question of memorisation. |
Really? how did you know that? have you even experienced such an examination? sorry to let you down. it's not so easy as you imagine. it requires not only good momery, but also the excellent abilities of analyzing and solving questions, you have to be smart and have a clear logic if you wanna pass the hard examination.
Sorry, I have to say these chill words, but that's the reality in China. |
Well,I quite agree with Redrose!
University entrance examination sounds easy,you may think:oh,it is just an exam.However,if you have ever taken it,you would feel that it is really diffiuclt!
There are two kinds of senior high school students in China.One is the arts,and the other is the science.If you are a student of the arts,your memory should be very good!Of course you should also be good at analyse.You have to analyse the reason of the events.
If you are a student of the science,your logical reasoning should be very good,or sometimes you can't follow your teachers or your classmates.Also,you should have a good momery,you have to remember a lot of expressions,theorem and axiom,without them,you can't work out problems.
So,university entrance examination isn't only a question of memorisation!
But also qutstions of logical reasoning and so on.
Oh,I nearly forget to say,handwriting is also quite important in the university entrance examination.Especially to a student of the arts,you may write a lot in the paper,if your handwriting isn't good,your mark maybe lower than other students,who's handwriting is quite good.Not only the students of atrs,but also the students of the science,they should also write neatly!
See,the university entrance examination is very very very diffiuclt!  _________________ Winky has made many mistakes in her compositions.Sorry about that.But winky has confidence in herself,she will try to write much better than before. |
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ieltsinsider
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 170
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: raises questions |
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The chances of a Chinese person passing the university entrance examination primarily depend on where they live. If you live in Beijing or Shanghai, your chances are about 80% (source: Chinese government). If you live in a village in the countryside, your chances are about 20% (source: Chinese government). This is because of a few different reasons, but the most obvious ones are: 1. better teachers in the cities than in the villages and 2. the hukou (residence permit) system means that students from cities have a certain number of guaranteed places at universities in their own cities.
Of course, Chinese people will tell you that the exam is difficult. That way, if they fail, they save face. Overall, half the students who take the test will pass. That means that it cannot be very difficult to pass.
As I clearly demonstrated before on another post, competition does not depend only on the number of people competing. It also depends on the quality of the people taking part in the competition. The example I gave was that if myself and my best friend played basketball against Yao Ming, he would easily beat us, even though it is two against one.
Actually, Red Rose, I have a lot of experience with the university entrance exam. If the university entrance exam requires such great analytical skills, the question has to be asked as to why so many university students in China freely admit that they do not have such analytical skills.
Handwriting is a factor in any written exam. If the examiner cannot read it, you will clearly get a low score. Your point is valid, but relates to any written test, not only this one. |
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RedRose

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2735 Location: GuangZhou, China
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| ieltsinsider wrote: |
The chances of a Chinese person passing the university entrance examination primarily depend on where they live. If you live in Beijing or Shanghai, your chances are about 80% (source: Chinese government). If you live in a village in the countryside, your chances are about 20% (source: Chinese government). This is because of a few different reasons, but the most obvious ones are: 1. better teachers in the cities than in the villages and 2. the hukou (residence permit) system means that students from cities have a certain number of guaranteed places at universities in their own cities.
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sorry, ieltsinsider, it's not 80%, it's 65%, the other 15 belong to nongovernmental college, those students who fail the entrance examination would go for the nongovernmental college. but it's hard for a nongovernmental student to find a job after he graduates from college.so normally, when we mention the chance to enter universities, we don't really count the nongovernmental one. that's all about 80%.
however, if you wanna enter a first-class university, your chance is 10%, and if you wanna enter a second-class university, your chance is 25%. of course, if you wanna enter a 3rd-class one, your chance is 65%. actually, all students are eager to enter the first-class universities, because that means you will study better in your college years, and that's a good chip for your future. if you can enter just a third-class college, then your future won't be that prosperous.
I took this entrance exam 19 years ago, in that year just 21% students could pass the examination of all students.
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| Of course, Chinese people will tell you that the exam is difficult. That way, if they fail, they save face. Overall, half the students who take the test will pass. That means that it cannot be very difficult to pass. |
yes, we would tell you it's hard, and we would tell you where we are from, for us, it's not about a face, it's about the truth. we would tell you our nationality, our situation, because we are honest and confident. unlike some people, no matter how hard you ask her, she just dare not tell you where she is from. such unconfident people always judges people and makes her imaginative criticism towards people, that's pretty funny. but ok, since she is such a coward, that's her right, everyone has the right to be a coward. but I can't guarantee not to make fun of that.
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| As I clearly demonstrated before on another post, competition does not depend only on the number of people competing. It also depends on the quality of the people taking part in the competition. The example I gave was that if myself and my best friend played basketball against Yao Ming, he would easily beat us, even though it is two against one. |
really? ok, let's see: here are 5 positions, if 10 people go for them, is that as easy as it is when 100 people go for the 5 position? you gave an example about Yao Ming, very good. Yao Ming is excellent, so he will win of 10 people or 100 people, just because he is the best, right? and here are 5 jobs, one is taken by Yao Ming, there are 4 left, and do you still think it's as easy for the left 9 people to go for the 5 positions as it's for the left 99 to go for them?
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| Actually, Red Rose, I have a lot of experience with the university entrance exam. If the university entrance exam requires such great analytical skills, the question has to be asked as to why so many university students in China freely admit that they do not have such analytical skills. |
I am sure you do have a lot of experience you failed and you took another one, and you failed again, and you took another one again...... I am not in the same boat as you, poor me, I just took it once, and I passed, I am not as experienced as you. some students admit they don't have such analytical skills, that happens in any country. you said many students in china said that...where did you get this conclusion? how many is your "many"?
Have you even experienced Chinese university entrance examination? I know you are very experienced at entrance examination, lucky you! and you failed again and again. so you failed because you got a bad memory? sorry again. the more I got to know about you, the more I feel sorry. maybe you just no longer want me to feel sorry, so you won't tell me your nationality, your background....thank you! it's very thoughtful of you! you are definitely a sweetheart!
you said the entrance examination is just a matter of memorise, maybe it's true in your country. in that case it's time for your country to reform its university examination system! if your country just test students' memory, without evaluating students' abilities of analyzing and solving problem, then such a examination system is definitely a problem! sorry again. |
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