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ad-miral
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I said Tibet was poor in a "humane" aspect, because it has been comquered again and again. So, neither financial nor spiritual.
Yes the PROC actions was the same as the English actions, both are unacceptable.
(which other examples did you give?)
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KHF
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beancurdturtle
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There are much more if you dig, but even more are those you can never find, thanks to information control. |
And the only government administration that is better at information control than the Chinese, would be the Bush Administration in the U.S. They are so good, that most Americans do not realize they are being fed misinformation, opinion, and propaganda instead of objective truth.
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KHF
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I agree. Then again, the American government has nothing to do with this thread.
Just because something sucks comparatively less doesn't mean it's good. |
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ad-miral
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, too.
We are talking about culture of China, so the American government has at least as much to do with China as Tibet.
We can surely talk about the measures how America tried to stop the economical growth of China, but this is not the culture of China. If you want to talk about it please make up another thread.
One own impression of my culture is that there are a lot of minority groups in the provinces, for example Dai Minority in Yunnan Province. Minority girls look very good, I know one.
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ltp-008
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| beancurdturtle wrote: |
| KHF wrote: |
There are much more if you dig, but even more are those you can never find, thanks to information control. |
And the only government administration that is better at information control than the Chinese, would be the Bush Administration in the U.S. They are so good, that most Americans do not realize they are being fed misinformation, opinion, and propaganda instead of objective truth. |
It is very interesting that you said that the States is better at information control than China,what do you mean?
Do you mean that the State doesn't have freedom of press,freedom of speech or something else?
Do you mean that the States censors and filters media contents ?
Do you mean that the States blocks many oversea Internet Websites?
Do you mean that the states don't let media to report break news?
Do you mean that the States doesn't give freedom for some bad people to commit crime?
Do you mean that CIA and FBI don't tell you what they are doing when they are investigating some confidential cases?
If you think that the States is worse than China at information control ,you should provide facts or some credible examples comparing with China in these aspects to prove your statements,otherwise you just made a meaningless statement in which showed your trait as extreme leftist . |
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ieltsinsider
Joined: 16 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: to KHF and Red Rose |
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KHF - You claim that the US government controls the media in the US. Really? So why do some parts of the media support GWB whilst others don't? Doesn't make sense!
Red Rose - You say that people should make nice, polite posts, but look at your own, particularly where you insult me for even mentioning the question of Taiwan. You have received warnings from the moderator for your impoliteness. You still claim that I am concealing my nationality. I am not. I just don't see what my nationality has to do with the thread. I have asked you to explain the relevance of my nationality and you have refused.
KHF - If you are looking at how Chinese people deal with 'objective truth', read some more of Red Rose's posts. The answer is, they don't! Americans, for all their faults, are far better at dealing with the truth. |
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beancurdturtle
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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I will answer your questions here. The references and discussion probably belongs in a different thread.
| ltp-008 wrote: |
| It is very interesting that you said that the States [U.S. Government] is better at information control than China,what do you mean? |
Briefly - the U.S. government is more media savvy. They have many media experts on staff. They are good at crafting half truth and information that is easier for people with poor critical thinking and research skills to believe.
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| Do you mean that the State [U.S. Government] doesn't have freedom of press,freedom of speech or something else? |
Yes. To some extent, this is true (try "free speech zones" in google).
| ltp-008 wrote: |
| Do you mean that the States [U.S. Government] censors and filters media contents? |
Yes - and they control events to prevent the story they don't want reported from being noticed.
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| Do you mean that the States [U.S. Government] blocks many oversea Internet Websites? |
No. It's not necessary. 90% of people in the U.S. are hypnotized by television so will never make the effort to find objective information from overseas sources.
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| Do you mean that the states [U.S. Government] don't let media to report break news? |
Yes. The U.S. Government controls (or attempts to control) any news that may make them look bad. If it does get reported, then the U.S. Government does everything it can to discredit the source.
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| Do you mean that the States [U.S. Government] doesn't give freedom for some bad people to commit crime? |
I'm sorry - I don't understand this question.
| ltp-008 wrote: |
| Do you mean that CIA and FBI don't tell you what they are doing when they are investigating some confidential cases? |
Yes, they do not tell. How many years did it take (for example) for George Bush to admit that secret CIA prisons exist in other countries?
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| If you think that the States is worse than China at information control ,you should provide facts or some credible examples comparing with China in these aspects to prove your statements,otherwise you just made a meaningless statement in which showed your trait as extreme leftist . |
This isn't the thread for an in-depth discussion of the shortcomings of the Bush Administration. My statements have meaning, and I can deliver documentation if I think it's necessary. Here I am just offering my opinion based on things I know to be true.
I am not an extreme leftist. I am a fiscal and domestic policy conservative - whereas the Bush administration is full of radic | | |
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