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[midrik]

a couple of weeks ago we here in sweden made the disgusting non-socialist party our leading one.

god help us!!!!
the gap between poor and rich is now going to decrease,
but what do they care, they got their money. They don't need anymore, but still they want more.
sholdn't it be the otherway around.
that the ones that have something in abundance can share with the ones not so blessed.
sweden is one of the richest countries in the world,
still the "rich" hasn't had enough money! it' f***ing disgusting!!!!

they said that they are gonna lower the housetaxes, but the only ones that get's lower taxes is the people that lives in rich, wellfare citys.

i dont want it lower but its a good example of how these people work in their minds.
"why souldn't the ones that has money in abundance have some moore"

after their victory all you could see was these damn rich, snoby kids celebrating.
it wake's up an feeling inside that just says "destroy".

now the battle is on, we are gonna fight them down togheter.
cause that is how you build something nice, together. not one by one.

best of luck in the next four upcoming years, cause it's not gonna be any longer time of this *beep* /sex pistol

[asterix]

If the gap between rich and poor is going to decrease, as you wrote, I would think you should be pleased.
In any case nobody in Sweden is starving to death and you may find that if you work hard you will do OK.
After all, not all the rich people in Sweden inherited their money.
Most of them got rich by studying hard and working hard.
There is no society where everybody is equal in financial terms.
Even if you took the wealth of Sweden and divided it up equally among all the people, it would not be long before some had no money and some had a great deal. It is human nature, and that is what defeats most utopian schemes - human nature.

[midrik]

and who the *beep* are you?

what do you know about how it is to be poor?
im sure youre a *beep* rich kid that easily melts in in society and never has any economical problems.

it's people like you who makes war in this world.
not people who wants it better for everybody.

dont you think that some are born with moore opportunities than other?
like moore money for example.
isn't that a little bit wrong?
we didn't come to this world too see other have all and we nothing.

you need to think differently or you're facing some big problems in the future.

i hope you rethink what you just wrote.

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[midrik]

And if you think it's human nature that some have moore than others then it's human nature that some people are starving to death because "thats just the way human nature is", some have, some don't.

human nature is to think clear and make things better, not to accept bad conditions.

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[pugachevV]

Luckily for you, midrik, there is a perfect place for you to see your theories in practice.
It is called North Korea.
I'm sure the Dear Leader would be pleased to demonstrate just how well it works.

[ad-miral]

I think the one big problem of socialist societies is impulse. If everyone is the same, if noone can be richer and noone can be poorer the impulse of people to earn more money will vanish.
This is the big fault of the socialist economy.

Impulse is needed for an economy to grow. And that's why German society doesn't grow so much, because everybody has a very comfortable life, no one can be very poor. That's why capitalist economy is what only functions.

But I think a communist economy doesn't need to be bad. Look at China today. As long as the goverment does the right thing and makes the own economy better and better I think you don't have to force someone to have a western style of living.
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[midrik]

The thing this was about from the begining was how people think,
it's a very unfair world we live in .
it can be changed, but only if we work for the right things.

like making it better for everybody, that means to make the gap between rich and poor smaller.
stop giving the rich moore and give the poor moore, the opposite of today.
everybody doesn't have the opportunity to be a hard working person for many reasons.

thats the biggest problems we have in the world today.

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[Bob S.]

[ad-miral]

[Bob S.]