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I am Christian



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean that I would have to open my mind to this culture thief?
Why this laicist culture doesn't open its mind to its thieves like me...?... Laughing
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Edoardo



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Location: Venice, Italy

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Laicist culture Reply with quote

I am Christian wrote:


The singer Madonna has created culture in the western countries, she has
found the favour of the owners of the western countries...blaspheming against the Mother of God (the Queen of Christianity)


What!?!? "Madonna" is just her real first name... in Medieval-Italian it meant just "ma'am"... Somehow it is still used to indicate women or "the woman" also in other languages and countries...
As Madonna has italian origins, their parents gave that name to her... It's all perfectly normal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_%28entertainer%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_%28art%29

see a short list of example of "madonnas" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna

Futhermore, if the first thing that comes into your head when you think about the whole western civilization is commercial singer Madonna... And if the only argumentation you can find out to criticize the whole Western civilization is "Madonna"'s name, which sounds blasfemying to you just because of your lack of knowledge of the western culture, which you would like to judge...That make us think you don't know, nor you have not understood anything at all about the West... And remember that if you do not know something you cannot judge it.

We haven't closed our mind yet... We'd actually like to discuss, but YOU are so righteous, YOU have all the reason, all the knowledge, YOU have the truth in your pocket... I don't even understand why you asked us liars and thieves for our opinion... keep for yourself your offensive, ignorant and redicolous supositions.


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ad-miral



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, I'm very sleepy and tired now, so maybe I could misunderstand your sentence and intentions. But does laicism mean a highly technologized country, where people are strongly educated, and in which people still believe in religion like Christianity?

If I got it right "I am Christian" says that countries in Europe and USA has become lacist. I agree to this point, because many European and American countries are highly developed, they already know from Galilei said that the sun doesn't spin around the earth, but they still believe in religion and go to the church. The evangelic church even try to modernise the religion in order to get members.
I guess that is what he is cirtisizing about. He demands a country which follows the rules in Bible.

Ok, I understand that many conservative Christians, like Catholics, still want to keep the old conventions. And popstars like Madonna, being Christian, and do things blaiming Christianity.

I think because of democracy everyone should do what he wants to do. Nobody should be forced in believing a religion, and nobody should be forced in believing no religion. And with this non-forcing, a society becomes lacist. And if all non-lacist society allows you to believe what you want, the lacist society restricts in what you do.

So in a non-lacist culture people can earn their money in their own way and live in their own way, but in a lacist culture people have to follow a pattern given by the book Bible?

I prefer lacist cultures like China, here most people believe in economy and if someone wants to believe in Christianity or Islam he can do it too.

A non lacist culture must be an anarchy, where people have to believe the nonmathematical things written in a book. I don't like this idea

...going to bed I can't open eyes any more...
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Philo Kevetch



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If, in fact, the OP is not actually of another religion and simply "trolling"...

Repressed desire??

This person sounds tortured by guilt and seems to be lashing out to blame "the world" for lusting in their heart.

Fanatics come in all flavors....!! Perverse pleasure of self denial...take a close look in the mirror.
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