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The method I have been using

 
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stream



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: The method I have been using Reply with quote

Many years ago my friend gave me an advice to read a book "How I learn foreign languages" by Kato Lomb. To tell the truth I hated to learn words, grammar rules and things. This method was exectly what I needed.
The main idea is as follows. You take a book of a good writer that uses
a simple pure language (short stories are the best). What is important it must be interesting for you and the text must not be adapted. And read it without using the dictionary. Sounds funny, dosn't it? But!
Some words you already know perhaps from school, when you were
too lazy to study well Smile. Some word are international, some are of no importance for understanding. There are names of people, geographical names of places. So you won't be so helpless as it seemed at first. Smile
Reading many times the same story you try to deduce the meaning of words and phrases. For me it was a very engaging occupation. Only when you know the meaning of a word nearly for sure you can check it up in the dictionary (just in case Smile). I assure you, you will never foget the word the meaning of which you got by such a method.
Of cause it won't do any harm to look through grammar first. But it is not the same as to learn grammar, far from it.
It goes without saying that this method is not universally applicable.
Everyone should invent his(her) own method, best for him(her). Or adapt this one if it seems to somebody promising. But I suppose the essence
of this method must be used by everybody to this or that extent for it gives a feeling of the language. Learning words and rules only you will get to know but dead formal tongue.

Tnat is all.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a wonderful technique, Stream. Thanks for sharing it!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, bud. And the thought that you are reading a real book by a real English writer instead of dull exercises and understand it, inspires a lot from the begining.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, Stream. A few years ago I was studying Spanish, and I liked reading short stories, and eventually a few novels, much more than any other exercise. I would try to understand as much as I could before looking in a dictionary or asking for help. We all vary in how we learn best, but that works well for you and me!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And so it does for me, too Laughing It's so much more fun to read interesting novels than to do boring exercises Cool There is even a name for that method, it's called "extensive reading".

http://www.extensivereading.net/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mirea, I am inclined to think it is good for everybody. Of couse one won't be able to speak standard phrases and read fluenly adapted texts
in a couple of weeks and have the illusion the thing is done! Smile
But in a longer span of time this method will beat any other.
The matter is we are in a hurry to get quick result whatsoever.
And in many cases we are not free to choose among the methods. It entirely depends on our teacher.

I admit I sound too categorical. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stream wrote:
Mirea, I am inclined to think it is good for everybody. Of couse one won't be able to speak standard phrases and read fluenly adapted texts
in a couple of weeks and have the illusion the thing is done! Smile

Yeah, I remember a high school teacher telling me, if you want to be able to express yourself, then read, read, read. And this advice was referring to my own mother language, not even a foreign language. I think to speak a language fluently means, not to translate the meaning of every single word anymore, it becomes sort of an automatism. And reading is surely an excellent way to train this ability, but not in a couple of weeks, this needs a little more time and effort Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree that in order to express yourself better, lots of reading must be done. However, for learners of English as a second or foreign language, I would recommend reading how native speakers express themselves when they speak; not just when they write. Listening can sometimes go too fast for students to notice empty fillers, paraphrasing...all those things that make you sound more natural.

Here is a collection of links to find online interviews. Some include audio. You may find your favourite actor or actress there:

http://fceblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/reading-interviews-and-online.html

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