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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: a lot of Reply with quote

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1.I have a lot of apples.
2.I have a whole lot of apples.
3.I have a whole of apples.


I know that 'a lot of' is equal to 'a whole lot of'.
But I wonder if 'a whole of' is being used as the same meaning of 'a lot of' among native speakers.
Can you let me know?

Thanks.
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redset



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No - a 'whole' means all of something, if you drink a whole bottle of juice that means you drank the entire bottle, putting emphasis on the fact that you drank the full amount and didn't leave a little bit. You didn't just drink the bottle, you drank the WHOLE bottle - all of it, down to the last drop. If you have a lot of apples then you have a large number of apples, so people sometimes add whole to add emphasis in a similar way - if you have a whole lot of apples then you really do have a large number of them, not 'quite a lot' but a definitely a whole lot of apples!
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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: quite a lot of Reply with quote

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if you have a whole lot of apples then you really do have a large number of them, not 'quite a lot' but a definitely a whole lot of apples!


Thanks for your nice reply, RedSet!
I could understand the meaning of 'a whole '.
But I have one more question about the above quote which you mentioned. How many is 'quite a lot of'?

And also, I organized the order of quantity below from what I could quess.
If not correct, can you correct them?

below: quite a few of apples< quite a lot of apples< a lot of apples=a whole lot of apples=a good lot of apples=a great lot of apples
Thanks.


Last edited by Chan-Seung Lee on Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:06 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Chan-Seung Lee



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: once again Reply with quote

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The Greeks invented a whole of hypotheses which turned out to be valuable later, which in their day couldn't be tested.


In the excerpt, what does 'a whole of' mean? Does that mean 'a set of' or an author's grammar mistake? I wonder. Please let me know.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"a whole of hypothesis" is not correct English. "a whole hypothesis" is grammatically correct but a bit odd. You can say a "complete hypothesis" if you aren't happy just saying "hypothesis".

The whole sentence is poor. A hypotheses is not "invented"; it's developed or made or put forth.

A better sentence is something like The Greeks made a hypothesis which couldn't be tested in their day but turned out to be (valuable)(valid) later.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: redset Reply with quote

I've looking forward to Redset's reply to the second question.

Thanks.
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