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ad-miral



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing I can't exactly see the object of hoshi's feelings and motivations... Is it Pommezani, or Oriani?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on! It would be Oriani 'cause I haven't talk with pomm. != means not equal. Does someone here knows what did sigmud freud said?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

S.Freud, 1930a, page 460 wrote:
The experience, that the sexual (genital) love gives people the greatest satisfaction, must prove that people have to continue searching their gratification in the genital relationship, that people have to see the genital erotic as the core of their life.


Laughing To be honest, I don't really agree with him. I rather want a love full of passion.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the point! I mean, he tought that human beings are born because of sex and that ALL the people is always thinking about sex Confused
I think maybe he was always thinking on it; as a result, sigmud freud=perversion
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing don't you think about *that*?

However,
Freud's way is also a way of thinking. You know, we have many many ways of thinking, and philosophers are there to discover one of them and to analyse it.
For example, Ren� Descartes discovered the modern Rationalism. That's a way of thinking, which starts at the outside. We realize something with our eyes, and we analyse it with our brain, and then we get an impression. From guy to guy and from brain to brain, the realized things are different.
For example, Platon has the old idealist way of thinking. He thinks that our soul had been separated from our body, before we were born. In this stage the soul had known every secret which is possible to know. After our birth, we forge this, and in our life we have to memorize all these things we had known in our ideal state.

I think most of the philosophers have the right point, but those points only reflect one side of human. I think, in reality, all the points philosophers ever discussed are inside us, and there will be even more because there are still philosophers in this world. I think it's the same with technical science. (philosophy can be called "science about human behaviour")

To be honest, sometimes I also think about *that*.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR, I'm turning your favourite topic into a topic about philosophy Laughing Laughing Laughing Do something against it
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahaha
the RR's topic?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ad-miral wrote:
RR, I'm turning your favourite topic into a topic about philosophy Laughing Laughing Laughing Do something against it


and I can also turn philosophy into my favorite topic. Take a look at the following sentences:

1). Some people get turned on when they talk about philosophy Exclamation

2). the less clothes you are wearing, the sexier you look; But when you are totally naked, you won't be so charming anymore, because people have nothing to imagine about your body<----that's the philosophy about existence and imagination.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedRose wrote:
...the less clothes you are wearing, the sexier you look; But when you are totally naked, you won't be so charming anymore, because people have nothing to imagine about your body<----that's the philosophy about existence and imagination.
hahaha we have a great philosopher here Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ad-miral wrote:
RR, I'm turning your favourite topic into a topic about philosophy Laughing Laughing Laughing Do something against it


For me it's better, I only make this topic because some people change other topic that I made. I don't understand why you want that somebody be against you Question Question Question Question
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dilana wrote:
ad-miral wrote:
RR, I'm turning your favourite topic into a topic about philosophy Laughing Laughing Laughing Do something against it


For me it's better, I only make this topic because some people change other topic that I made. I don't understand why you want that somebody be against you Question Question Question Question


Admiral was joking around. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey a friend of mine met a guy by internet. Then the guy told her that he knew where she lives and that he will abuse of her. That's perversion
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was joking around, I think
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No! it was real. They had call the police!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ad-miral wrote:
RR, I'm turning your favourite topic into a topic about philosophy Laughing Laughing Laughing Do something against it

Freud was a psychologist, not a philosopher.

A Narcissistic psychologist - he assumed the entire world was messed up in exactly the same way he was messed up.

I know for sure I'm messed up in entirely different ways. Laughing
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