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wing
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 193
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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It's easy, just use other login name like element106.
Speaking of Sino-US trading relationship, the US won't make China easy to be one of its biggest trading partner due to the trade deficit and diminishing manufacting jobs which impact on American workers. They say China has undervalued their currency by 40 percent for nearly a decade, which they consider as unfair trade practices, so they always impose a tariff on Chinese's goods to fight back.
How to close this gap is tough. China already revalued their currency, the yuan, by 2 percent, but the US thinks it is not significant enough to save American jobs. Undoubtly I think, the result would be the same, if China even revalued the yuan by 4 or 8 percent in one or two years, as the same thing in Europe, like jeans and books, costs you as much as ten times in China. So I know why the service in a shop or restaurant isn't very good towards the Chinese.
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asterix wrote: |
Element - No more hurricanes - China is now America's biggest trading partner.  |
To "no more hurricanes" I say "I agree",though I really don't know if the earth agrees with me.
Does "China is now America's biggest trading partner" mean taiwan is becoming no more or less in considering of the Sino-US relationship,and that is the sticking point like some dark clouds floating in the blue sky.off topic?
Ok,back to the forum's technical hitch,seems most people think so,will someone of us disappear someday,hell,how could we get back then  |
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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China has learned from the revaluation of yen,I guess the same thing won't happen to us,it just adopted the monetary policy that sticked Yuan to USD until this year,but that didn't replace taiwan issue as the most important affair between two countries.Early or late,America has to decide which one is heavier. |
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wing
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 193
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Well, most Taiwanese investments in China now.
element105 wrote: |
China has learned from the revaluation of yen,I guess the same thing won't happen to us,it just adopted the monetary policy that sticked Yuan to USD until this year,but that didn't replace taiwan issue as the most important affair between two countries.Early or late,America has to decide which one is heavier. |
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Sarcastically,some of them spend the money they gain from mainland market on separatism campaign. |
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wing
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Odd things always happen. And so, how can American businessmen not be captivated by the cheap labour in China?
There is no ulimate trading partner in foreign trade.
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Sarcastically,some of them spend the money they gain from mainland market on separatism campaign. |
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Element, I hope you won't be offended if I point out that, cynically, rather than sarcastically, is what you had in mind. |
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wing
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 193
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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asterix wrote: |
Element, I hope you won't be offended if I point out that, cynically, rather than sarcastically, is what you had in mind. |
I don't think he'll take offence at your sincere correction.
Thanks a lot, Mr. Asterix, but, by the way, what's the difference between a sarcastic remark and a cynical remark? _________________ Go where you wanna go; Do what you wanna do; With whoever you wanna do it with ---Mamas & Papas |
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: |
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wing wrote: |
Odd things always happen. And so, how can American businessmen not be captivated by the cheap labour in China?
There is no ulimate trading partner in foreign trade. |
As someone ever said--No permanent friends, only permanent interests--right? As long as we share the profit together,we are friends. |
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: |
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asterix wrote: |
Element, I hope you won't be offended if I point out that, cynically, rather than sarcastically, is what you had in mind. |
Not a all.Instead,I am very glad that someone corrects my mistake,you know after my graduation from college,it is a couple of years that I haven't met an english teacher correcting my poor english expression What's the difference between the two,sarcastically and cynically?
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I ofter have the same experience,meeting english words holding similar translation in dictionary,how to distinguish them is a problem for me  |
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stellara

Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:20 am Post subject: |
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yeah these words are difficult to distinguish..
there is irony which all of you probably know
Wikipedia wrote: |
Irony is a form of expression in which an implicit meaning is concealed or contradicted by the explicit meaning of the expression. Irony involves the perception that things are not what they are said to be or what they seem. |
the next step leads us to sarcasm
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Sarcasm is sneering, jesting, or mocking a person, situation or thing. It is often used in a humorous or ironical manner and is expressed through vocal intonations such as over-emphasizing the actual statement or particular words. |
and then there's cynicism which normally has less to do with irony than sarcasm. Today cynicism is mostly connected with the attitude of a person which is expressed in malicious, invadious expressions. Also can be a kind of resigned note. the black humor is a big part of cynicism.
you can maybe distinguish the expressions cynicism and sarcasm better if you read this example:
Cynical is when the one who beats up says "Yeah? Was it good? Should I beat you once again?"
Sarcastical is when the one who is beaten up says instead of starting to cry " 'Course! Right over again!"
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asterix
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:43 am Post subject: |
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A cynic is someone who has little faith in human kindness and sincerity,
cynical describes this.
e.g... JOHN: Jim goes to see his mother every day , runs errands for her, and does her gardening.
RICHARD: He's just doing it for her money.
Richard is a cynic.
Sarcasm is a bitter or wounding remark; a taunt, especially when it's ironically worded, and language consisting of this.
sarcastic is the adjective for this.
e.g. Your team mate tries to catch a baseball, but drops it. You say, "Nice catch, Fred!" |
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wing
Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 193
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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element105 wrote: |
wing wrote: |
Odd things always happen. And so, how can American businessmen not be captivated by the cheap labour in China?
There is no ulimate trading partner in foreign trade. |
As someone ever said--No permanent friends, only permanent interests--right? As long as we share the profit together,we are friends. |
Oh yes, that's what I wanted to say. The US government have been working hard, but they should learn how to fit in later lol... (I'm being sarcastic.)
Thanks a lot to you both. _________________ Go where you wanna go; Do what you wanna do; With whoever you wanna do it with ---Mamas & Papas |
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:04 am Post subject: |
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That's really so nice of you both,thanks. |
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element105
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:06 am Post subject: |
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wing wrote: |
The US government have been working hard, but they should learn how to fit in later lol... (I'm being sarcastic.)
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Yeah,they will,lol.(I'm being sarcastic too) |
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