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lostin1800



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: like as Reply with quote

"And for heaven's sake don't confuse the vicar with God. I'm sure God is nothing like as self-rightous-"

Hi,

The above is quoted from 'The Cater Street Hangman' by Anne Perry.
"I'm sure God is nothing like as self-rightous" seems strange to me. Shouldn't 'like' be followed by a noun? "As self-rightous" isn't a noun.
Please explain this usage to me. Thanks.
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CP



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is a strange way to say, "I'm sure God is not nearly so self-righteous as the vicar."

It may be a construction used in some small part of the English-speaking world -- I'm guessing Ireland. What is the setting of the story? Does that character use other peculiar expressions?
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lostin1800



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi CP.
I believe the story is set in Victorian England. The quoted sentence was spoken by its protagonist Inspector Pitt, who was from a working class background but fortunately reveived a good education by the grace of his master- at least that's the impression I'm under. I don't recall he said anything else that's strange to me.
This is the first Detective Pitt book I read, there are 18 more subsquent to this one, and I think their English is kind of archaic. So you mean 'like as' isn't what English speakers outside of Irland would use?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know that it's an Irish expression; I was only guessing that it was some kind of regionalism, and I guessed Ireland. But wherever it comes from, it is not a common construction.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't sound so unusual to me, and I'm from England - not Victorian England though Smile CP's right, nothing like means 'not similar in any amount/way', so he's saying that God is, in terms of self-righteousness, not similar to the vicar at all - God's not even close to being as self-righteous.
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Mary W. Ng



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: like as Reply with quote

Quote:
"And for heaven's sake don't confuse the vicar with God. I'm sure God is nothing like as self-rightous-"

Like as meaning 'in the same manner as' was common in older English. It still appears in poetic language or in dialect.
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Shouldn't 'like' be followed by a noun? "As self-rightous" isn't a noun. Please explain this usage to me.

Yes, I think like as should be followed by a noun, in this case being self-righteous.
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lostin1800



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mary, redset and CP,

Thank you all very much!
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