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Bubu



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: meaing of a phrase Reply with quote

hallo!

I don't understand the meaning of the following sentence

"But the magistrate convicted the monk for soliciting a prostitute and put him on bond for 12 months."

What is the meaning of the phrase "on the bond". If it refers to a contract then what kind of contract is it?

can anyone help?

thanks in advance
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helen1



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bubu,


"But the magistrate convicted the monk for soliciting a prostitute and put him on bond for 12 months."

I think we need an American's expertise on this one - I think it's means they set him free but for a period of 12 months if he does anything illegal he will be arrested and have a fine to pay.

In Britain (or should I say England as I'm not sure Scotland is the same) - we have something called a 'suspended sentence' which I think means something similar.

Bud - if you check into this one - am I right?

Helen.
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Bubu



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well,
I don't know about either system. I am an indian and we have a different legal system.
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obelix



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This means that the monk was set free on condition that he agreed to behave himself for 12 months. If he did it again (and was caught) he would incur some kind of penalty: e.g. a fine, or jail time.
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helen1



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing that one up Obelix.
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bud



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha. I saw this a couple of days ago, but thought I'd wait to see what a Brit had to say. It's not American, Helen.

American English:

"But the judge convicted the monk for soliciting a prostitute and put him on probation for 12 months."

In the US, a bond (it's also called bail) is an amout of money that is posted by a defendant waiting for trial. It allows his release from jail until such time as he may be convicted, and it guarantees (in theory) that he will not run away. The worse the crime, the higher the bond. Bail is usually not asked for lesser crimes and is not available for the most heinous of crimes. We say this person is out on bail.
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helen1



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so glad I brought a little laughter into your life Bud!

Embarassed - should have spotted the 'magistrate' bit - but we definitely don't have a bond here - or maybe it's just that I've never been in trouble with the law!!! - Anything to confess?????
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bud



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harumph!

... Well, maybe a speeding ticket or two or whatever, but no muggings or grand thefts! Very Happy
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Bubu



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

helen and bud

We also have the words like bail and probation in india too. but this 'bond' was a little confusing

I enjoyed the sweet arguement between you two Very Happy

thanks
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bud



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was to me, too, Bubu. It seemed like it must be what I know as probabtion, but I wasn't sure.

Glad it helped.

Do you happen to know the country it came from? Maybe Australia or South Africa?
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Bubu



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Bud, I have no Idea where it comes from.Sorry

By the way, I have a different question.
you wrote in your last post "do you happen to know..."

Is that correct use? or one should say:

would you by any chance know...

you are a native speaker. plz help
Thanks
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helen1



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bubu - don't worry Bud is just showing how common he is Laughing

Seriously though the phrase you suggest
Quote:
would you by any chance know...
is extremely formal.... most people would say 'I don't suppose you know' or as Bud did 'do you happen to know' or just simply 'do you know'

Hope this helps

Helen
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Bubu



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I envy you native speakers!!!

wish I could play with words like that Confused
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bud



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, your English is excellent now. You'll get there!
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