I want to ask a question about what to teach. Thank you

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I want to ask a question about what to teach. Thank you

Post by peterng » Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:16 pm

Hello everbody,

I am working as a personal ESL tutor of a 4 years old girl. I want to ask for everyone opinion here about what to teach.

Would anyone give me some advice or web sites which contain some teaching resources?

The little girl knows a lot of words but she dont know how to speak in complete sentences.

Many Thanks :D

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Post by Lorikeet » Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:50 pm

Aside from having had kids, I have utterly no experience teaching children (so of course, I'll make a comment here! ;) ). With a child that young, can't you just play? For example, play house, play store, play school, play games... It seems just using the language would teach it. Of course, you can have a plan and organization of how to approach the communication, but she doesn't have to know about it.

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Post by peterng » Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:01 pm

Thank you very much and I am so glad to see receive your help,
I am trying to play with her in every lesson but there is a problem, she still cannot speak in a complete sentence. Should I teach her grammar ? is it too harsh for her to remember the grammar rules ?
Since she doenst know how to speak in full sentences, I think it is appropiate to teach her some necessary grammar for her to speak, however I dont know in which way should I teach in order to have a funny lesson while keeping her concentration

In simplier words, what should be used to teach her grammar effectively so that she would learn in a simple and funny manner ?

MANY THANKS

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Post by Lorikeet » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:23 am

I bet at that age she will pick up whatever you model. So get some things, and set up a store. She can be the seller and you can be the buyer. You can tell her what you want to buy. If she doesnt know how to count or do money yet, just make it all the same. But you can pass things back and forth. "Hello, do you have any XXXX?" or "Hello, I'd like a XXXX." "Here. That's twenty cents." Then you can be the seller and she can buy. Or you can do a restaurant, with a waiter. Or a playground, with kids playing. Anyway, that's my thought. Perhaps someone else will respond.

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My big error....

Post by revel » Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:03 am

Hey there!

The first time I was faced with a group of four and five year olds I made one of my biggest errors as an ESL teacher. I tried to give a formal class. In the first class I had two kids crying and one telling me that he didn't understand why all those foreign immigrants just didn't stay home instead of taking jobs that should belong to nationals (obviously his father speaking there....)

Three child psychology videos and five text-books later, I discovered something that I had always known: kids group reality differently from adults. They will soon enough have to put things as the older people think they should be, A before B, 7 before 8, noun before verb. They have a great advantage over us older folk in that they don't mind if it is BA or 87 or verb noun. But they also have a natural want to receive approval from the older folk they spend time with.

Does your student make good, complete sentences in her native language? At four years old, I would expect that she is still making some errors there. Why should you expect her to speak perfect English? I would rather, as Lorikeet points out, play with her, find her favorite games and play them again and again (kids have a wonderful ability for not getting bored with repetition). Sing songs. Teach her those things she needs as a four-year-old through example, not through lecture. Chances are that she does not yet structure reality as you do, that she still believes in Santa or the Great Pumpkin or the Tooth Fairy, or that her favorite doll really is having tea with her though there is nothing but air in the pot. Don't worry about the completeness of her sentences, rather, make sure your sentences are complete.

You might plan lessons based on a flow of sentences. For example, you might want her to greet you with "Hello, how are you" "Fine thanks, and you", well, every time you see her for the first time, you might insist on this exchange. After a few days, you might reply "I'm OK, thank you." She might or might not catch on that you've said something different, she might ask you what you had said. Keep the change until she does so, or until she begins using it as well.

Uuff, there is too much to be said on this subject to put on a simple message board. Have to get to work on that chapter of my book!

peace,
revel.

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Post by Granny D » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:34 pm

Hi. I don't know where you work. I work in a public school setting where we have some preschool programs. We don't even test childen for English proficiency until they enter K, and then an informal approach is the only thing that works. Try simple songs and nursery rhymes. Read repetitive stories and have the child chime in when ready. The best place for really young kids like this to learn English is in a quality preschool with some English speakers. So do what they would do there, use stories, songs games, start each class with spoken or sung greetings. What are the expectations of the parents? If you are the only one speaking English with this child, I hope they don't expect the Gettysberg Address!

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