IQ testing in Primary Grades

alissa_bucholz · Post by **alissa_bucholz** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:48 pm

I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to assess a child's IQ in the primary grades (that's not a formal test). I would prefer something informal and easy and that didn't rely a lot on reading. I have a couple ELL students that are REALLY struggling and we can't do any IQ testing because they aren't in their primary language. So if there was some kind of assessment that was more visual we could establish some of their strengths and build on them. I really hope someone can help of has some ideas!

EH · Post by EH » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:11 pm

There are IQ tests in languages other than English, and bilingual psychologists who administer them. What are the children's dominant languages?

However, as valuable as IQ testing is, I think speech-language testing would be even more necessary if the primary concern is language learning skills.

I'd recommend trying to find a bilingual speech-language pathologist in your area. Go to www.ASHA.org and click on Find a Professional to get local referrals in the US. I'm a Korean-English bilingual SLP in NJ, myself, so I know about this specialty. Sometimes kids struggle with ESL because their first language skills are not strong to begin with. A language learning disability *is* possible to diagnose in ESL students.

Please feel free to PM me with any specific questions that arise.
-EH

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massesl · Post by **massesl** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:03 pm

try the BVAT (bilingual verban ability test), from Riverside Publishing. It assesses congnitive language ability in English and then in English and the native language combined (any items that the child doesn't know in english, he/she gets to answer in the native language at a subseqquent testting session). You don't need a bilingual educator. The ESL teacher can give the English part, and then train a translator (short training - bascially stressing they can't give clues or assist) and sit with/guide the translator when he does the native language part.
Easy to score - with computer pogram - all scores are normed for grade level.

also, there are some nonverbal IQ tests that a psych. could do: TONI (test of nonverbal intelligence) is one that comes to mind. There are a couple others, but I can't find the paper I had them written on. I can't think of other language IQ tests, except Spanish versions of the WISC. The problem with using the IQ tests from other countries (if you can find them - I've had no luck) is that they are normed for children living in those countries; children not living there/not educated there wouldnt have the same exposures and probably not as good native language skills. It would be like giving a British IQ tests to an American child (a lory? what's a lory? Isn't that a girl's name?)

also, if you are interested in visual memory, interaction of motor and auditory abilities, etc., the Slingerland is useful - you could probably make a version of it using the kids' native language