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kev7161
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| Today, March 31, I received the back half of my March salary. NO TAXES! I mean, I got my regular net pay for which I am contracted. Contract signing time comes up this month so we'll see if anything changes come next July 1. |
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shadowrider
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Here is a twist to the social tax saga - it only applies to foreigners who are paid in RMB. |
but... since most of us are employed by Chinese companies that deposit into Chinese banks... its a moot point (makes sense as deposits made overseas - to include Hong Kong can not be tracked by government).
Adds to the difficulty that FTs have in taking money out of the country legally while still in country, as many forum members can attest to... |
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mike w
Joined: 26 May 2004
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Location: Beijing building site
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| since most of us are employed by Chinese companies that deposit into Chinese banks |
Valid point - but not all of us.
I work for a Chinese company and my salary goes into a Chinese bank, but I'm not paid in RMB - I'm paid in US$. |
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Simon in Suzhou
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Location: GZ
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| kev7161 wrote: |
| Today, March 31, I received the back half of my March salary. NO TAXES! I mean, I got my regular net pay for which I am contracted. Contract signing time comes up this month so we'll see if anything changes come next July 1. |
I'm also here in Suzhou and received my full pay this month. I got a notice from my FAO in February telling me I would be enrolled in the program at the end of that month and heard nothing more since...I'm guessing the gov't hasn't got its sh%$ together yet as we are supposed to get a shiny Social Security Card with a number when we start paying in...
So maybe next month we will lose 88% of our paycheck? Hard to tell what is going on... |
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shadowrider
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Simon in Suzhou wrote: |
| kev7161 wrote: |
| Today, March 31, I received the back half of my March salary. NO TAXES! I mean, I got my regular net pay for which I am contracted. Contract signing time comes up this month so we'll see if anything changes come next July 1. |
I'm also here in Suzhou and received my full pay this month. I got a notice from my FAO in February telling me I would be enrolled in the program at the end of that month and heard nothing more since...I'm guessing the gov't hasn't got its sh%$ together yet as we are supposed to get a shiny Social Security Card with a number when we start paying in...
So maybe next month we will lose 88% of our paycheck? Hard to tell what is going on... |
I'm in Suzhou. we were taken right after the spring holiday - beginning of February. End of February, the bad started....
Depends on the FAO and company, I guess... No SS Card, but do have a Chinese SS number... |
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Simon in Suzhou
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| shadowrider wrote: |
| Simon in Suzhou wrote: |
| kev7161 wrote: |
| Today, March 31, I received the back half of my March salary. NO TAXES! I mean, I got my regular net pay for which I am contracted. Contract signing time comes up this month so we'll see if anything changes come next July 1. |
I'm also here in Suzhou and received my full pay this month. I got a notice from my FAO in February telling me I would be enrolled in the program at the end of that month and heard nothing more since...I'm guessing the gov't hasn't got its sh%$ together yet as we are supposed to get a shiny Social Security Card with a number when we start paying in...
So maybe next month we will lose 88% of our paycheck? Hard to tell what is going on... |
I'm in Suzhou. we were taken right after the spring holiday - beginning of February. End of February, the bad started....
Depends on the FAO and company, I guess... No SS Card, but do have a Chinese SS number... |
The government document I was given from my FAO from the said we would all be issued a SS card. It went into quite some detail about the card. This would be given to us, not the school. I will definitely make sure I have this as proof that the taxes being deducted from my paycheck are actually being paid. |
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shadowrider
Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| Simon in Suzhou wrote: |
| shadowrider wrote: |
| Simon in Suzhou wrote: |
| kev7161 wrote: |
| Today, March 31, I received the back half of my March salary. NO TAXES! I mean, I got my regular net pay for which I am contracted. Contract signing time comes up this month so we'll see if anything changes come next July 1. |
I'm also here in Suzhou and received my full pay this month. I got a notice from my FAO in February telling me I would be enrolled in the program at the end of that month and heard nothing more since...I'm guessing the gov't hasn't got its sh%$ together yet as we are supposed to get a shiny Social Security Card with a number when we start paying in...
So maybe next month we will lose 88% of our paycheck? Hard to tell what is going on... |
I'm in Suzhou. we were taken right after the spring holiday - beginning of February. End of February, the bad started....
Depends on the FAO and company, I guess... No SS Card, but do have a Chinese SS number... |
The government document I was given from my FAO from the said we would all be issued a SS card. It went into quite some detail about the card. This would be given to us, not the school. I will definitely make sure I have this as proof that the taxes being deducted from my paycheck are actually being paid. |
The FAO here likes to hold on to documents (passports, FEC, diplomas, etc). Even when I got my Internet and GSM phone services she was upset that I did it without her approval... And then demanded the receipts/ contracts for the school's records... |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Location: Blabbing
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Your FAO likes to break the law. By Chinese law, you have to have your passport at all times. |
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shadowrider
Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
| Your FAO likes to break the law. By Chinese law, you have to have your passport at all times. |
I said "likes". After I received my passport and my FEC back, it would be a cold day in China before she gets them back again. Other FTs have gone without their passports for weeks at a time... And whats with the thousands of photos required here? Almost every week they are asking us to provide photos. My face could break 1000 mirrors, so its not looks...
Just like before the tax, the payroll office doesn't reply to emails or calls for receipts on taxes paid... |
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Beyond1984
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: What next? |
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"I'm in Suzhou. we were taken right after the spring holiday - beginning of February. End of February, the bad started...." -shadowwriter
I'm entering this thread late ... I'm wondering if anyone else is also paying the tax. I would rather not scroll back 14 pages to find out:)
I don't know if my College has started paying. Faculty were promised last fall that our take-home pay would remain the same until the end of our contract, June 30, 2012.
As I understand it, it's a 30% tax on employer and 10% on the worker. I wonder if joint-ventures can remain profitable after such a hit. I wonder how many workers will bail if they see contracts that offer substantially less than their current salary.
Informed comment welcome!
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Beyond1984
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: Anyone else? |
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"Many here are having it [social security taxes] taken out. Do you think we are lying?" -shadowrider
No, I don't ...but I have scrolled back to page 10 and so far only shadowrider has had social security taxes deducted.
Anyone else?
-HDT |
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shadowrider
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| You didn't scroll back far enough. There are a few here that are... depends on what lovely city you are in. Suzhou was one of the first to comply... Shanghai, its reported, will drag its feet... |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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perhaps someone already paying the tax would like to start a new
thread where we can keep track of who's paying and how much. |
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