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Imdramayu

Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 394 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:25 am Post subject: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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Monthly salary: SR10,000 (BEd with 5 years experience in Gulf)
3 month holiday each summer
20 weekly contact hours
housing provided (single-status)
my own office with Internet access
my own live-in Phillipino housemaid |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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Imdramayu wrote: |
Monthly salary: SR10,000 (BEd with 5 years experience in Gulf)
3 month holiday each summer
20 weekly contact hours
housing provided (single-status)
my own office with Internet access
my own live-in Phillipino housemaid |
That salary is very low for a BA + 5 years experience. I wonder if they're factoring in one of those 3 months of paid holiday time since other unis generally provide 60 days off for the summer.
The addition of your own live-in housemaid is interesting, especially since you're male and would be in single-status housing. I assume this is someone available on the premises to clean, although this person is more likely to be male than female. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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Imdramayu wrote: |
my own live-in Phillipino housemaid |
If the salary offer wasn't so bad, this detail would suggest to me that it is a scam.
Who ever heard of such a benefit? A cleaning service... but "live-in"?
Beware... don't be wiring anyone money for anything on this one.
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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The salary's quite low for 5 years experience. You're NOT going to have a "live-in" housemaid on single status. WHat you might have is a space in your living quarters provided for one. But this is Saudi, remember - single guys don't get live-in maids.
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cmp45

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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Imdramayu wrote: |
Monthly salary: SR10,000 (BEd with 5 years experience in Gulf)
3 month holiday each summer
20 weekly contact hours
housing provided (single-status)
my own office with Internet access
my own live-in Phillipino housemaid |
This does not seem right...
3 months summer vacation????
You will NOT be getting 3 months summer vacation. The month of June will be non-teaching, you will be invigilating final exams and the rest of the time will be spent either attending in-house workshops or twiddling your thumbs until it's time for the vacation, usually near the end of June ...if you choose to leave on vacation earlier you will not be paid for that extra time off.
As for an inhouse maid...in your dreams! no employer that I know of would pay to supply a teacher with a live in maid not even for married teachers...if you want a maid to come and clean your flat, you need to arrange that on your own riyal...and definitely forget about a live in maid for single accommodation...NOT going to happen!
Where did you get this bogus information...certainly not written in a formal contract...something's fishy with all this...
The only thing that sounds right is the single housing, 20 hours of teaching and perhaps a private office with internet...the pay definitely seems low. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Private office ? In even the best posts in KSA sharing an office with another teacher is standard.
The live-in houseMAID is a deffi NONO - even if u pay for her yourself. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dear scot47,
At last - something the IPA beats KFUPM on: in Riyadh, we ALL had private offices
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John |
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EnglishDoYouSpeakIt
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 151 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:05 am Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Private office ? In even the best posts in KSA sharing an office with another teacher is standard.
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Places like IPA Riyadh have private offices. |
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deessell2
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Under the sun
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well it does say Filipino, not Filipina. Maybe you would be sharing with a male construction worker! |
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baa_baa

Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 265
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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Imdramayu wrote: |
Monthly salary: SR10,000 (BEd with 5 years experience in Gulf)
3 month holiday each summer
20 weekly contact hours
housing provided (single-status)
my own office with Internet access
my own live-in Phillipino housemaid |
its good when you compare it to other saudi contracts... i don't get accommodation....dunno what to doooo  |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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baa_baa wrote: |
i don't get accommodation....dunno what to doooo  |
Be assured you won't be sleeping under a bridge. Seriously, if you don't get employer-provided housing, then you're given a housing stipend which will allow you to choose your own accommodation. Simple as that. When you arrive in country, either ask the other teachers for tips on where to live or check with your employer for the numbers of real estate guys. |
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baa_baa

Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 265
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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nomad soul wrote: |
baa_baa wrote: |
i don't get accommodation....dunno what to doooo  |
Be assured you won't be sleeping under a bridge. Seriously, if you don't get employer-provided housing, then you're given a housing stipend which will allow you to choose your own accommodation. Simple as that. When you arrive in country, either ask the other teachers for tips on where to live or check with your employer for the numbers of real estate guys. |
I highly appreciate your sharpness "be assured", "simple as that", and the details of what will happen next. I feel relieved all of a sudden.. thank you so much. take care God Bless you!! |
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desert_traveller
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Is my contract for Prince Sultan University reasonable? |
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Imdramayu wrote: |
3 month holiday each summer
my own live-in Phillipino housemaid |
These two sound totally and utterly unreasonable. The rest is OK. |
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ultraman111
Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Posts: 148
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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what they can have 2 or 3 wives but we cant have a live in maid....?
The discrimination....sheesh
Start you own offshoot of islam......one where you can have as many live in women as you want, and drink and smoke sounds great. |
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