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Blkinkorea31



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: Shabaka Training KFU PYD (Saudi Recruiting) Reply with quote

Has anyone worked for this organization or most recently accepted an offer of employment with this company?

I most recently was extended an offer, they appear to be legit and are very straight forward about the pros/cons of employment and teaching gap year male college students in KSA.

They gave me contact info of employees, to ask detailed questions, but I only heard back from a manager, who was also very blunt.

Guess, I just want to hear from a past employ who did one or two years with the company or someone who just recently accepted an offer.

Thanks
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rdobbs98



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should do a search first. This is one of many posts.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=85867&highlight=shabaka
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rdobbs98



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article should tell you what you need to consider:

http://www.a1saudiarabia.com/21755-canadian-teachers-case-deferred-for-six-months/
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Blkinkorea31



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Desire updated information Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion to do research here, yet no one has commented about this company in detail since 2009-2010, it's now 2012. The interviewer shared detail about the company's distant past. Two years is a long time, things change, thus any updated information people can share would be helpful.

rdobbs98 wrote:
You should do a search first. This is one of many posts.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=85867&highlight=shabaka
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blkinkorea31 wrote:
Has anyone worked for this organization or most recently accepted an offer of employment with this company?

I most recently was extended an offer, they appear to be legit and are very straight forward about the pros/cons of employment and teaching gap year male college students in KSA.

They gave me contact info of employees, to ask detailed questions, but I only heard back from a manager, who was also very blunt.

Guess, I just want to hear from a past employ who did one or two years with the company or someone who just recently accepted an offer.

There was a thread about Al Shabaka created less than a week ago, but it got locked and deleted. I believe another thread from this year also got the boot. None of the posted comments from either thread were positive.

Generally, you'll find contractors like Al Shabaka, Education Experts, ICEAT, Al Khaleej, and whoever else I didn't mention, are best to be avoided. Plus, you're not likely to see any stamps of approval from current teachers working under any of these dodgy companies.
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wantok



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shabaka's manager was blunt to the point of omitting crucial information. You visa will be illegal and, by implication, also your contract. Health insurance therefore will also be illegal.

Steer well clear!
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AbeCross



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Avoid! Reply with quote

I sent you a PM with some details about this employer.
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stellarsky627



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AbeCross- Can you send me the same details about this employer? I'm a female, though, so unsure if the experience would be the same, but would like to know how Shabaka is. Thanks!
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vashdown2



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone with POSITIVE feedback on this job?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years, things have been pretty consistently negative. The two "disappeared" threads were a bit of a tiff between a poster who felt his experience was fine, and some of the negative posters. Let's just say that it became personal, and that almost always ends up with a locked or a pulled thread.

Seems a place that has had lots of problems and it is up to applicants to decide if it is worth the risk and/or if it is their only offer and "a job" is better than "no job."

VS
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wantok



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of positivity! An industrial mega-suburb exclusively for women is to be developed within spitting distance of the campus. http://www.arabnews.com/industrial-city-employ-5000-women

But maybe not: http://storify.com/ajstream/saudi-women-only-city-just-rumours

Other great news is that there are kiddy classes and "Openning Soon Ladies Center With a Female Director" http://shabaka-training.com/public/?module=All-News&subject=coming-soon

We can only hope that eventually they'll spell the corporation's name correctly.

SHABKA TRAINING was established in 2008 with the sole purpose of offering the English language Course to King Faisal University Preparatory Year Deanship (PYD). The first centre opened in Al-Ahsa in this regard. Salient features are,
SHABKA TRAINING has 70 teaching and administrative employees including
Foreign Native English teachers from
USA,
England,
Canada &
Australia.
SHABKA TRAINING has successfully taught more than 1,750 students since 2008-2011.
A Batch of 1,250 Student ready for 2011-2012
SHABKA TRAINING centre occupies 2000㎡ and is equipped with state of the art equipments. This includes a coffee bar, each class with projector, library, lab area with many computers with internet access and comfortable and spacious classrooms that allows students to study in a comfortable and relaxing environment.
SHABKA TRAINING's R&D centre is one of the few Saudi owned English education companies has.
SHABKA TRAINING's curriculum is unique and extremely effective for Saudi students since most of the students have given positive feedback about the curriculum to be very interesting and useful to their daily lives.
SHABKA TRAINING starting courses specially designed for companies in following sector
General Public
Banking, Insurance and Financial Sector
Retail
Electricity
Telecommunication Companies
Oil, Gas & Energy
Manufacturing
Healthcare
As a company that is ambitious and expanding at a rapid rate, SHABKA TRAINING is looking at constantly becoming better and adapting to the needs of everyone and will strive to become the best English education institution in the Saudi Arabia.

http://shabaka-training.com/public/?page=About-Us

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feverpitch



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Shabaka 2012 Reply with quote

Blkinkorea31- It was my post that was deleted a week ago, and I must admit, I did go on "a bit of a rant", however, the majority of what I posted about the company was factual, and based on true events and experiences.

Most of the staff you will find there this year will be new, which, in any organization, regardless of country, kind of tells you what you need to know about what people think of the place.
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Blkinkorea31



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Shabaka 2012 Reply with quote

Thanks all for he feedback, I've decided against the position. I'm going to remain stateside (USA), to complete a public school teaching certification program. I'll try my hand again at international positions in the new year.


feverpitch wrote:
Blkinkorea31- It was my post that was deleted a week ago, and I must admit, I did go on "a bit of a rant", however, the majority of what I posted about the company was factual, and based on true events and experiences.

Most of the staff you will find there this year will be new, which, in any organization, regardless of country, kind of tells you what you need to know about what people think of the place.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Shabaka 2012 Reply with quote

Blkinkorea31 wrote:
Thanks all for he feedback, I've decided against the position. I'm going to remain stateside (USA), to complete a public school teaching certification program. I'll try my hand again at international positions in the new year.

Good decision. If you don't already have it, I would also get a CELTA (more for adults) or whatever is required for teaching ESL in the schools these days.

VS
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Blkinkorea31



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Shabaka 2012 Reply with quote

Thanks, I currently have a MA in TESOL, and four years of ESL teaching experience at the elementary and secondary level, and very limited experience at the tertiary, I have found that most Middle Eastern unis would prefer someone with atleast 3-4 levels at the tertiary level before your consider by a serious institution. I was hoping to use Shabaka as a means to an end, but Im going to hold off for now and go the international school route, get in country, work for an employer and then move into the university level position.

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Blkinkorea31 wrote:
Thanks all for he feedback, I've decided against the position. I'm going to remain stateside (USA), to complete a public school teaching certification program. I'll try my hand again at international positions in the new year.

Good decision. If you don't already have it, I would also get a CELTA (more for adults) or whatever is required for teaching ESL in the schools these days.

VS[/quote]
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