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[jaffa]

Looks like someone is trying to make trouble:-

http://www.arabnews.com/illegal-practice-teachers

[scot47]

"Making trouble" may be your spin as a wetback. "Enforcing the law" would be mine, as one who always had a regular employment visa with igama and all the consequent privileges !

[jaffa]

[truthbebold]

[scot47]

To "put a spin on a story" means to emphasise one aspect of it.
A "wetback" is an illegal immigrant,especially a Mexican in the USA.

In any dispute involving a Saudi and a foreigner in KSA, who do you imagine wins ?

[nickelgoat]

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[johnslat]

From the article:

"This refers to the report, �Private tuition becoming an increasing trend among teachers,� published on Nov. 29, which mentions about many teachers in the kingdom offering their students �private tuition sessions� despite a clear edict against this by the Ministry of Education.

Foreign English instructors employed by recruitment agents to teach Preparatory Year Programs in universities across the Kingdom are also tutoring privately. These instructors have neither iqamas nor employment visas. They have 3-month business visit visas and they keep renewing every 90 days in a foreign country like Bahrain. They are lured to Saudi Arabia with promises of tax-free high salaries, which they supplement with after-hour tutoring to university and high school students.

When will the Ministry of Labor and Ministry of Higher Education and Ministry of Foreign Affairs investigate these visa scams taking place in universities across the nation?
Are these foreign instructors immune from prosecution because they are Western?"

If you have an iqama and are there legally, then what in this article is "making trouble" for you? The law is being broken by all the parties involved: the teachers, the recruitment agencies, and the universities. However, as scot47 pointed out, it's only the wasta-less teachers who might be in any danger of suffering adverse consequences.

Regards,
John

[Middle East Beast]

[johnslat]

"Foreign English instructors employed by recruitment agents to teach Preparatory Year Programs in universities across the Kingdom are also tutoring privately. "

Well, shock, shock I'd venture to say that many/most legitimate and those teachers not so have engaged in private tutoring. I even had my Saudi BOSSES (who knew, of course, that it "violated the contract") ask me to tutor some people.

As has been posted many times on this forum, private tutoring almost always, maybe ALWAYS, is a contract violation. Teachers in Saudi or going there who have visited this forum (or actually read their contracts) should know that. And every time it's been mentioned here, someone has cautioned: BE DISCRETE. Your employers may not fire you if they find out (especially if they're the ones asking you to do it ), but if they need any excuse to get rid of you anywhere down the road, they'll have it.

Regards,
John

[jaffa]

[veiledsentiments]

Wouldn't matter Jaffa... it would still be the Saudi who would win.

VS

[camraman]

I think it`s unfair to say teachers accept 90 day visa`s knowing they are illegal . I was hired on the promise of an ikarma , when I got here I was told they were no longer available and was put on a 90 day one . What was I supposed to do , hop on the next plane back home ?when you come here you have every right to expect that your employer will act legally . My knowledge of visas is greater now than it was when I arrived . However this is only because I knew nothing when I arrived . I`ve been her 10 months , being renewed every 120 days {there is a 30 day extesion available on a 90 day visa ].I only work for my employer ,and have been told on my request to leave after 11 months that the `1 month holiday with pay bonus `that would have been my 12 th month is not available because i`m not on the ikarma . the fact I`ve never been offered an Ikarma , is just too bad .It`s just the way it is over here

[nomad soul]

[readytotravel]

If you get a proper employment visa, the iqama naturally follows. You were issued a business visa and you should have done your homework before assuming you could magically get an iqama after coming here without the proper visa.

[Middle East Beast]