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jpcharby



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote
I was just wondering what the visa reqs were for teaching in China

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Denim-Maniac



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The research should have quickly led you to the conclusion that yes, a bachelors degree is one of the legal requirements for the correct visa and working permit in China. That is a national requirement and doesnt vary according to province.

Are people working in China without a degree? Yes. Some may be working on the wrong visa type. Obviously that may come with some risks. Others may be working on the correct visa type, but one that has been obtained by fraudulent means.
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just another laowai



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Entirely possible to get a legit working status visa/permit in China without a BA. However that's up to the company to go to bat for you and show that they need you enough. Generally not possible without either a senior position/lots of experience or a hefty chunk of money spent on a lawyer to sort it out (not including the inevitable bribe).

For english teachers, generally impossible.
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FlyingJames



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought you need a bachelor degree for your Z Visa application process. The government wouldn't likely issue a working permit without a degree. I'm working through this currently, and it's defiantly required for my province. However, I can't speak for the rest of the country.

In saying that, every single job advertisement for English teachers that I have seen clearly states you need a degree. It's a general requirement. All the best for your China job hunt Smile
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jpcharby



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:40 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote
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jpcharby



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Also thanks for the replies guys. I love the community support when it comes to this sort of thing. Great info
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
jpcharby wrote:
So yea, the general consensus I'm seeing is that you need a Bachelor's degree to get a Z visa. A shame considering I spent the last few years getting my college diploma (if your American that means associates degree) so that I can teach abroad, not realizing it won't get me anywhere. I've had job offers(not directly from schools), all promising Z visa's. Do they realize getting me a Z visa is not possible?

It's never impossible. More difficult, but not impossible.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got my first job with a diploma.
My advice is get applying asap as your search may take a little longer.
Look at vocational and other provincial-level outfits. Their pay rates are actually not too much different to the nationally ranked schools.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jpcharby wrote:
So yea, the general consensus I'm seeing is that you need a Bachelor's degree to get a Z visa. A shame considering I spent the last few years getting my college diploma (if your American that means associates degree) so that I can teach abroad, not realizing it won't get me anywhere. I've had job offers(not directly from schools), all promising Z visa's. Do they realize getting me a Z visa is not possible?


Incorrect.

Over the years, I have met too many ESL teachers with no experience let alone degree. And they all but a few had a proper visa.
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jpcharby wrote:
So yea, the general consensus I'm seeing is that you need a Bachelor's degree to get a Z visa. A shame considering I spent the last few years getting my college diploma (if your American that means associates degree) so that I can teach abroad, not realizing it won't get me anywhere. I've had job offers(not directly from schools), all promising Z visa's. Do they realize getting me a Z visa is not possible?


There is something to be said for a quality edumidication. Very Happy

...and getting you a Z visa is certainly possible though you may be out of luck on some of the locations where rules are applied with more vigor. However, unless you are talking to a school directly you should likely consider everything they tell you to be blowing smoke up your.....

Remember, they have not a single thing to lose if the school rejects you once you are here. Next thing you know you are teaching preschool for 20 hours on the weekend with an F or tourist visa.
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