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CANDLES
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Dear Joh,
I was going to , but didn't have the 'medicine'! |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| mahdi1432 wrote: |
I am leaning towards the CELTA rather than than TEFL to increase how marketable |
 I will look forward to the day when CELTA is an old style English teaching certificate found in old backwater woods places and TESOL is widely recognized as the standard. |
I doubt that it will because of one basic fact. A CELTA holding individual has specific, predictable teaching skills... employers know what they are getting. Every other certificate - by any name or source country - is different, so the employers haven't a clue.
It is likely that about half of them turn out teachers who are equal or superior to CELTA holders and half that maybe read a few chapters in a text and practiced teaching their fellow classmates for about 15 minutes.
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betty:)
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| spiral78 wrote: |
| Lots of teachers have spouses. I do. But qualifications, experience, and nationality matter. If you are just completing a TEFL course, particularly if it is online and/or does not include supervised teaching practice with real students, you are unlikely to find a job that will include a spousal visa anywhere. Entry level quals and no experience don't equate to good jobs in today's market. |
Spiral 78 my question is not very close to your comment, but you might have more experience to know the answer to a job-related question of mine than myself.
I have been surfing the forums of the café for a while. Right now I am in the process of searching a job in the Middle East. I live in Ukraine. I have a double citizenship: Ukrainian and Hungarian. I have seven years of teaching experience after my BA in English. I also have an English Master's and PhD in language pedagogy.
I have already submitted several job applications, but I don't even get answers to them. Is the reason for it that I am not a citizen of UK, USA, NZ or Australia? Or are there other reasons, as well? Can you please help me with this dilemma...? |
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nomad soul
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| betty:) wrote: |
| I have already submitted several job applications, but I don't even get answers to them. Is the reason for it that I am not a citizen of UK, USA, NZ or Australia? |
Yes, it's very likely your nationality is the issue, especially for job ads specifying applicants be native speakers from certain English-speaking countries. |
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DLIguy
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Location: Being led around by the nose...by you-know-who!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I have already submitted several job applications, but I don't even get answers to them. |
This is par for the course.
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| Is the reason for it that I am not a citizen of UK, USA, NZ or Australia? |
Most likely.
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| Or are there other reasons, as well? |
Email etiquette is not a universal. What might seem cold and rude to you may have a completely different view by another. As they can choose between resumes, what chances do you think you have of being responded to? |
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betty:)
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| nomad soul wrote: |
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| I have already submitted several job applications, but I don't even get answers to them. Is the reason for it that I am not a citizen of UK, USA, NZ or Australia? |
Yes, it's very likely your nationality is the issue, especially for job ads specifying applicants be native speakers from certain English-speaking countries. |
Most of the job ads I have seen in Middle East countries, specify the nationality. Does that also mean that I don't even have a chance to get into the Middle East language education platform? Or might it mean that I have to surf the job ads on some other websites? |
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nomad soul
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| betty:) wrote: |
| Most of the job ads I have seen in Middle East countries, specify the nationality. Does that also mean that I don't even have a chance to get into the Middle East language education platform? |
That's the reality. But obviously, if you see that rare ad that doesn't specify nationality, then go ahead and apply. |
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DLIguy
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| Feel sorry for the South Africans...vis-a-vis "native speaker"... |
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betty:)
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| betty:) wrote: |
| Most of the job ads I have seen in Middle East countries, specify the nationality. Does that also mean that I don't even have a chance to get into the Middle East language education platform? |
That's the reality. But obviously, if you see that rare ad that doesn't specify nationality, then go ahead and apply. |
Thanks for the encouragement! By the way do you think that I might have more chances at on-site job fairs vs. the online job application procedure? |
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