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How does this contract sound in Shenzhen?
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scratchpiece27



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: How does this contract sound in Shenzhen? Reply with quote

It's at a public primary/elementary school in Shenzhen

- 14,700 Per month (includes housing allowance)
- 18 lecture hours per week (each class is 45 minutes)
- Paid holiday (all national, winter and spring holiday)
- 6,000 rmb airfare reimbursement upon completion of contract
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So so.
You'll know how the airfare stacks up against your likely actual cost.
Local knowledge required to determine if you can pay for an apartment and still net a reasonable salary. Upfront letting deposits will likely mean needing a bit of dosh on day one.
My other concerns would be getting an apt near campus and querying if all teaching is on one site.
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Songbird



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is the recruiter? If it's through PELCC/ Perlandas etc then run for the hills! The salary for a primary school is a little suspect.
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rioux



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find out the hours you must be there each day as well.
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doogsville



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out some of the Shenzhen expat sites, there are a few, and see what the locals think of it.
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zactherat



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those kinds of offers are usually only open to those with > 3 years experience in China, so it's pretty good basically. Almost TGTBT.. so tread carefully

Just to give you some realistic perspective on the numbers -
14700 minus ~1000 for tax, and I don't know how much your housing allowance is but 3000 for a place in a nice area is probably the minimum in SZ, with building management fees likely to add another 10% or so. Also, SZ can be an expensive place to live because temptations abound. It's a very consumer-oriented city, which is actually great if you like shopping and nightlife.
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Zhejiang_Man



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those kinds of offers are usually only open to those with > 3 years experience in China

The job ad is actually a little confusing:-
Quote:

Bachelor degree or above + TEFL/TESOL + at least two years teaching experience

If you are interested, Please send your CV/Resume, Passport, Education Diploma / Teaching certificate
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tangal



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How does this contract sound in Shenzhen? Reply with quote

scratchpiece27 wrote:
- 18 lecture hours per week (each class is 45 minutes)

Be wary of this one, 18 lecture "hours" often means 24 45-minute periods.

At a public primary/elementary school, I doubt you'll be giving many lectures!
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scratchpiece27



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: How does this contract sound in Shenzhen? Reply with quote

tangal wrote:
scratchpiece27 wrote:
- 18 lecture hours per week (each class is 45 minutes)

Be wary of this one, 18 lecture "hours" often means 24 45-minute periods.

At a public primary/elementary school, I doubt you'll be giving many lectures!


Actually it says in the contract that a 45-minute class counts as 1 lecture hour. So I'm assuming it's 18 classes
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Trebek



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been offered the same job by a recruiter named Ivy". Does anyone have info about her or this job offer?
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mnguy29



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: PELCC? Reply with quote

So, this PELCC is not reputable? I just sent a letter for what I am looking for in a job. They did have many listed with almost unbelievable salaries. Should I forget them??
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Re: PELCC? Reply with quote

mnguy29 wrote:
So, this PELCC is not reputable? I just sent a letter for what I am looking for in a job. They did have many listed with almost unbelievable salaries. Should I forget them??


Mr. Perlandas of PELCC will greatly disappoint you. The jobs don't exist; it's a classic bait and switch. He'll get you down there in Shenzhen on a tourist visa, then ask you to sign another contract where you basically work for him with great disadvantages for you like low pay and travelling to multiple locations with excess total hours (because he's skimming all the cream off the top of your salary so the more you work the more he makes) all while working illegally.

Even if he could get you a Z, I wouldn't work for him. He makes the worst Chinese scammers seem honest and forthright.

The jobs look great, even unbelievable, because they don't exist. Don't apply. Don't waste your time.

Cool
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chinaroman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Housing and bills is most likely going to run you 4,500 - 5,000 minimum. If the salary is taxed another 1,000 is gone. Leaving you around 9,000. You could survive, but do not plan on saving much. Shenzhen is expensive! 14,500 with housing provided would be much better. Make sure you have the proper visa before stepping foot on a plane. They are cracking down!
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinaroman wrote:
Housing and bills is most likely going to run you 4,500 - 5,000 minimum. If the salary is taxed another 1,000 is gone. Leaving you around 9,000. You could survive, but do not plan on saving much. Shenzhen is expensive!

Why is that? Aside from high rent, which is expected in more developed cities, Could you fill us in with some details on what makes this city more expensive to live in?
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mnguy29



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

Thanks Guer-I will no longer have contact with them. I did think that their jobs were just too good to be true. I dont understand how an agency expects to do reputable business when they have a history of screwing people. I got screwed a few years back in accepting my first China job. Never Again!!
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