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FloridaTEFL



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:18 pm    Post subject: Really Need Budget Advice... Reply with quote

Hi...
I’m wondering if 80,000 Yen per month would be enough to live on for living expenses (minus utilities and rent) in any of the urban areas?? I don’t go out to the movies or clubs. I like to drink at bars with friends about twice a week, but I’m fine with drinking the cheap crap (got used to it in Korea). I like to eat out with friends 1-2 times a week, but I also got used to eating local food in Korea, so I think I could manage the same in Japan. However, I’m worried about the cost of fruits and vegetables in Japan in regards to grocery shopping. I am also not a shopaholic when it comes to clothes or electronics. With all that said, would 80,000 a month be about right, more than enough or would it be a struggle?? Thank you!!!!
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1, Look up

2, See that button with a magnifying glass icon that says search? Click it.

3, Search something like "Japan Living Expenses".

Hope this has been of help to you.
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FloridaTEFL



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
1, Look up

2, See that button with a magnifying glass icon that says search? Click it.

3, Search something like "Japan Living Expenses".

Hope this has been of help to you.


I guess you could say this same exact thing to almost anyone who ever posts a question on Dave's. Hell, why should anyone post questions ever again?? Just use the search function! Stupid...

Besides, the last relevant/somewhat helpful one was from last July. Anyway, thoughts appreciated from others with actual knowledge and experience, not trolls. Thanks!!
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mitsui



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic has been covered a lot.

It depends where you live. You would spend less money outside of a big city. Tokyo is more expensive than anywhere.
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Besides, the last relevant/somewhat helpful one was from last July.


Here's one http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=105438
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=105301
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and another http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=105162
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: Really Need Budget Advice... Reply with quote

In theory, it's possible.

In practice, if you really think that drinking the local liquor is a significant money-saving concession, I doubt you have the attitude required to stay within such a tight budget.

Food is expensive here.
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FloridaTEFL



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
And another http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=105301


Uh...not looking for information about the "legal minimum required salary for bringing dependents into Japan" as that thread refers to. Thanks anyway.
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FloridaTEFL



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
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Besides, the last relevant/somewhat helpful one was from last July.


Here's one http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=105438


So I missed this one. It is helpful. Thank you.
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FloridaTEFL



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Really Need Budget Advice... Reply with quote

Pitarou wrote:
In theory, it's possible.

In practice, if you really think that drinking the local liquor is a significant money-saving concession, I doubt you have the attitude required to stay within such a tight budget.


I don't have the right attitude because I mentioned drinking?? I never said it was a significant money saver. It was just one of many things I listed in regards to spending money. Geez...
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but if you don`t want to spend much money you should not drink alcohol since it is expensive here.
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, my answer would be no, I don't think 80,000 is enough, especially if you plan on going out 2 nights a a week.

A night out on a weekend for me can cost anything from 5,000 to over 10,000 yen (not including a taxi home). So if you're anything like me then no 80,000 won't be enough for you if you plan to do it twice a week.

Also, japan doesn't really have 'local restaurants' in the same sense that the rest of Asia does. In my experience, the small local cafés/ restaurants/ shops are just as, if not more expensive than the chains.
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FloridaTEFL



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightsintodreams wrote:
Anyway, my answer would be no, I don't think 80,000 is enough, especially if you plan on going out 2 nights a a week.

A night out on a weekend for me can cost anything from 5,000 to over 10,000 yen (not including a taxi home). So if you're anything like me then no 80,000 won't be enough for you if you plan to do it twice a week.

Also, japan doesn't really have 'local restaurants' in the same sense that the rest of Asia does. In my experience, the small local cafés/ restaurants/ shops are just as, if not more expensive than the chains.


That's rather sobering...but important to know. Thank you for the feedback!
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Really Need Budget Advice... Reply with quote

FloridaTEFL wrote:
I don't have the right attitude because I mentioned drinking?? ... Geez...

Pretty much, yes.

It's not a criticism: just an observation. You have set certain minimum expectations for one aspect of your lifestyle. To meet those expectations and still meet your other day-to-day necessities on 80,000 yen / month, you'll have to go to extraordinary lengths of frugality.

But maybe you'll prove me wrong. For instance, if you're prepared to treat fresh fruit and veg as a rare luxury, and stave off malnutrition with cheap vitamin pills, then you might be able to pull it off.
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