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IQ Tests To Be A New China Foreign Teacher Requirement ?
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3701 W.119th



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's it for me.

This forum has been ruined by this cretin.


This.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The foreign is filled 90% with either wu maos or this CTFU malarky, both of which are so obvious.

The CTFU people just spam endless links to blogs or whatever they have created, and I don't know why, and the wu maos jump down anyone's throat who dares to speak out against China.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3701 W.119th wrote:
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That's it for me. This forum has been ruined by this cretin.
This.

This forum has calmed down, thanks to the Mods.
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
3701 W.119th wrote:
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That's it for me. This forum has been ruined by this cretin.
This.

This forum has calmed down, thanks to the Mods.

Do you have a bat signal for the Mods, Nomad Soul? Because a menace to Metropolis has returned.
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MESL



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At present more than 28,000 foreign teachers are employed at 2,317 Chinese, schools, universities, kindergartens, and learning centers.


By my calculations, that's 12 teachers per school. I have worked for only 2 schools with more than half a dozen foreign teachers. Most have one or two.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buravirgil wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
This forum has calmed down, thanks to the Mods.

Do you have a bat signal for the Mods, Nomad Soul? Because a menace to Metropolis has returned.

Ha! I'm just very clear in my PMs to the Mods. I provide a sample or two of the offender's quoted posts as evidence and a description of the issue it's creating. The Mods can then decide if it's a valid complaint, but so far, my alerts have helped eliminate three pesky, spammy trolls from this forum.
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Poker Face



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: IQ Tests To Be A New China Foreign Teacher Requirement ? Reply with quote

Scrabble King wrote:
I clipped this from a Shanghai Expat forum. Are China expat teachers really this stupid?

"After dozens of Chinese mothers complained that the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors, and erratic grammar in their own native tongue of English, the Ministry of Education announced they are considering a new IQ Test for all foreign teachers.

They even drafted a 3 part test and gave it to 2,000 volunteer expat volunteer teachers in Beijing and Shanghai and the results were shocking. Only 32% of the participants passed with a score of 80% or better. Another 41% passed with a score of 70% - 79%.

At present more than 28,000 foreign teachers are employed at 2,317 Chinese, schools, universities, kindergartens, and learning centers. It was recently discovered through a teacher survey that more than half of China's expat teachers never previously taught any subject to any student before arriving in China. Current requirements only call for a bachelor degree in any subject and fluent oral English.

With more than 28% of recent Chinese graduates unable to find work or speak more than basic English, this new IQ test may become a reality sooner than later. Yet one more hoop of many that China expats will have to jump through is not sitting well with most resident foreigners. A sample of the test can be taken at "After dozens of Chinese mothers complained that the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors, and erratic grammar in their own native tongue of English, the Ministry of Education announced they are considering a new IQ Test for all foreign teachers.

They even drafted a 3 part test and gave it to 2,000 volunteer expat volunteer teachers in Beijing and Shanghai and the results were shocking. Only 32% of the participants passed with a score of 80% or better. Another 41% passed with a score of 70% - 79%.

At present more than 28,000 foreign teachers are employed at 2,317 Chinese, schools, universities, kindergartens, and learning centers. It was recently discovered through a teacher survey that more than half of China's expat teachers never previously taught any subject to any student before arriving in China. Current requirements only call for a bachelor degree in any subject and fluent oral English.

With more than 28% of recent Chinese graduates unable to find work or speak more than basic English, this new IQ test may become a reality sooner than later. Yet one more hoop of many that China expats will have to jump through is not sitting well with most resident foreigners. A sample of the test can be taken at http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/259-do-china-foreign-teachers-really-now-require-an-iq-test-yes"


There are more than just rumors floating around at the SAFEA tefl center lately where I just finished my exam. They are not only planning on requiring an IQ test, but also an English proficiency test (supposedly this one http://evaluation.safea.gov.cn/login.php) and instead of just testing us for HIV they are going to expand the body check to include all STDs.

I am sponsoring a new arrival teacher at my school and when he arrived last week and registered at the cop shop, they gave him a 12 pack box of condoms! Maybe this has something to do with giving us an IQ test? LoL!
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Alien abductee



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
The foreign is filled 90% with either wu maos or this CTFU malarky, both of which are so obvious.

The CTFU people just spam endless links to blogs or whatever they have created, and I don't know why, and the wu maos jump down anyone's throat who dares to speak out against China.

But sometimes we see statements like this:

Someone wrote:
I read that almost half of Chinese pilots get others to take their tests and that they aren't really qualified.

and it makes you wonder what kind of person would post such nonsense. People (especially newbies to China) come to eslcafe expecting to find something at least remotely helpful, or useful (which the above quote is not). Reading some of the stuff on this forum makes me think that an IQ test to become a China foreign teacher isn't such a bad idea.
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
... but so far, my alerts have helped eliminate three pesky, spammy trolls from this forum.

Is that three registered avatars/posters/IDs...
Who could be the same person, as other members have suspected, with a small army of puppets to "astroturf" the issues of contracts, wages, and a blacklist while entertaining themselves with caricatures of expat attitudes.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about an IQ test for my students? With a curve they might score about a 70.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buravirgil wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
... but so far, my alerts have helped eliminate three pesky, spammy trolls from this forum.

Is that three registered avatars/posters/IDs...
Who could be the same person, as other members have suspected, with a small army of puppets to "astroturf" the issues of contracts, wages, and a blacklist while entertaining themselves with caricatures of expat attitudes.

Probably. They're like recurring bouts of herpes. This forum isn't my normal stomping ground, so you'd recognize returning trolls' and spammers' modi operandi better than I. However, it really doesn't matter if they're one in the same since it's their tacky behavior that gets them noticed and subsequently, lands them on the end of the Mods' boot. Anyway, others can certainly alert the Mods if they see something amiss on this or any other forum.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IQ tests don't reveal much about personality. I vote that the MMPI or The Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory be administered.

It's worth reading about. Some employers in the U.S. use it (I don't know why), and the criminal justice system uses it too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory
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JellyRoll



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:41 am    Post subject: Seriously? Reply with quote

Listen - I spent 3 yrs in China and came across all the filth and dross which no expat should be expected to.

I've met permanent alcoholics.
I've met paedo's.
I've met skirt chasers.
I've met psychos. Clinically certifiable psychos.
I've met those who proudly boast of having fake degrees.

You know what? Not a goddamned one of them was a QUALIFIED, bona fide English teacher - and I am a card carrying member of MENSA in UK/USA/Canada - IQ 186.

LISTEN - China DOES NOT deserve this. I'm a Brit and Canadian - proudly so - and I AM A TEACHER. I'm heading back there because I love China, and the education system there. The students are amazing - ok, don't tell them when you are sick because they will all move into your apartment to make sure you don't die, because they love you and they will cry too much.

SHAME on the backpackers and the 'fake' teachers.
THIS is why the authories are cracking down - about bloody time.
It's my dearest wish that they require an expanded CRC to root out the closet paedo's.

China doesn't need you - stay away - go 'backpack' somewhere else - not at the expense of China.

If you are NOT a teacher - go away - you're NOT welcome in my neck of the woods, and I will expose all the fakers for everything they are.
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drjtrekker



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is idiot scrabble king also know as JELLY??!??!?!

Hey Jelly, shut the f up, u f'in idiot.

BTW, I am in Chengdu...if u losers have any issue....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China, a land open to the nomad and welcomes all except those who exclude others.
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