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Fergie
Joined: 10 Feb 2015 Posts: 34 Location: The Middle Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:52 am Post subject: Can anyone explain International TEFL Accreditation? |
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I was looking to take a TEFL course and I of course I want one that will give me a certificate that recognized and accepted all over the world.
There are no less than at least 50 TEFL training companies advertising their courses are all "certified" and "accreditted" but by who? What international body decides what is acceptable or are they all just using a sales pitch on us?
Even the biggest online TEFL giant out of the UK gives certificates that are not recognized in China and I am told the SAFEA TEFL certificates are worthless outside of China. So what's the real deal here? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:05 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone explain International TEFL Accreditation? |
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Fergie wrote: |
I was looking to take a TEFL course and I of course I want one that will give me a certificate that recognized and accepted all over the world. |
No such international TEFL accrediting body exists. Yet many TEFL course providers state they have such accreditation because it's an effective marketing ploy---it brings in customers.
If you're seeking a TEFL qualification that's recognized and accepted by the better employers worldwide, get a CELTA. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:05 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone explain International TEFL Accreditation? |
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Fergie wrote: |
There are no less than at least 50 TEFL training companies advertising their courses are all "certified" and "accreditted" but by who? What international body decides what is acceptable or are they all just using a sales pitch on us? |
Only fifty? Unfortunately, there are just as many fake accrediting agencies out there as there are fly-by-night training companies. Just fill out the application, send in a couple hundred dollars and, bingo, you're "accredited."
For something that's globally accepted for entry-level TEFL jobs (many jobs require additional study beyond the basic certificate), go with one of the three "brand name" certificates: CELTA, Trinity, or SIT. There are also numerous courses that are considered to be equivalent to the above three. Basically, you're looking for a course with 120-130 hours of face-to-face instruction and at least six hours of supervised teaching practice. Anything less than that, and it's no longer equivalent to the big three. |
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Walsh
Joined: 19 Feb 2015 Posts: 24
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:16 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone explain International TEFL Accreditation? |
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esl_prof wrote: |
Fergie wrote: |
There are no less than at least 50 TEFL training companies advertising their courses are all "certified" and "accreditted" but by who? What international body decides what is acceptable or are they all just using a sales pitch on us? |
Only fifty? Unfortunately, there are just as many fake accrediting agencies out there as there are fly-by-night training companies. Just fill out the application, send in a couple hundred dollars and, bingo, you're "accredited."
For something that's globally accepted for entry-level TEFL jobs (many jobs require additional study beyond the basic certificate), go with one of the three "brand name" certificates: CELTA, Trinity, or SIT. There are also numerous courses that are considered to be equivalent to the above three. Basically, you're looking for a course with 120-130 hours of face-to-face instruction and at least six hours of supervised teaching practice. Anything less than that, and it's no longer equivalent to the big three. |
You seem to know what you are talking about friend. Can you take the time to post a list of those that are legit and those that are frauds? A lot of people would be very grateful, including myself. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:49 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone explain International TEFL Accreditation? |
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Walsh wrote: |
Can you take the time to post a list of those that are legit and those that are frauds? |
Making a list is a waste of time and assumes others have knowledge of every TEFL cert course out there.
The reason the three branded (and standardized) certs---CELTA, SIT TESOL, & Trinity CertTESOL---appeal to employers worldwide is because they entail a supervised teaching practice component. These entry-level qualifications confirm that the job applicant has been properly trained (i.e., supervised, observed, and assessed) teaching real students in a classroom setting. This is where online certs, teach-n-travel certs, and rinky-dink weekend certs fall flat.
Anyway, this was recently discussed at length. See: |
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Walsh
Joined: 19 Feb 2015 Posts: 24
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:19 am Post subject: |
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So then what TEFL. TESOL, or CELTA certificate would you want to have and why? |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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CELTA. Because it's the one that requires no explanation; almost every reputable employer almost everywhere will recognize this one as the standard for entry level gigs. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Can anyone explain International TEFL Accreditation? |
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Walsh wrote: |
You seem to know what you are talking about friend. Can you take the time to post a list of those that are legit and those that are frauds? A lot of people would be very grateful, including myself. |
Just stick with one of the big three and you'll be fine. The only reason to do a generic certificate would be because the program is located in your home town and you wouldn't have to pay room, board, and travel expenses to take one of of the brand name courses. If you decide to go the generic route, use your local connections to check out the reputation and the quality of the school. If a course doesn't offer at least 120-130 hours of face-to-face instruction plus 6 hours of supervised teaching practice, don't do it. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Walsh wrote: |
So then what TEFL. TESOL, or CELTA certificate would you want to have and why? |
SIT TESOL because they train you in experiential (e.g., Paulo Freire) teaching methodologies, which is something unique to that particular program. But that's just my personal preference. CELTA and Trinity are also good options. |
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Walsh
Joined: 19 Feb 2015 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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esl_prof wrote: |
Walsh wrote: |
So then what TEFL. TESOL, or CELTA certificate would you want to have and why? |
SIT TESOL because they train you in experiential (e.g., Paulo Freire) teaching methodologies, which is something unique to that particular program. But that's just my personal preference. CELTA and Trinity are also good options. |
Is there a place to get this course in Beijing since I don't want an online course? Also, what is your opinion of the TEFL course that SAFEA sponsors? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Walsh wrote: |
esl_prof wrote: |
Walsh wrote: |
So then what TEFL. TESOL, or CELTA certificate would you want to have and why? |
SIT TESOL because they train you in experiential (e.g., Paulo Freire) teaching methodologies, which is something unique to that particular program. But that's just my personal preference. CELTA and Trinity are also good options. |
Is there a place to get this course in Beijing since I don't want an online course? Also, what is your opinion of the TEFL course that SAFEA sponsors? |
You'll have to look up SIT TESOL to see if there are any courses offered in your location. Ditto for CELTA and Trinity CertTESOL.
Again, the standard that reputable employers worldwide want to see is an EFL teacher-training course that entails the following:
- At least 120 hours of face-to-face instruction (4 weeks long)
- includes a minimum of 6 hours of supervised/observed/assessed teaching practice with real students in a classroom setting
TEFL courses that fall short in any of the above will very likely get a no-go from potential employers. Therefore, you be the judge if that SAFEA-sponsored TEFL course meets the standard for positions outside of China. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, SIT TESOL isn't currently doing anything in Asia. Most of their courses are in the U.S. and Latin America, and a handful of them are in Europe. If you're committed to doing a course in Beijing, your best bet would be to go with one of the CELTA sites (I believe there are two). Assuming SAFEA checks out (and we've told you what to look for), that may be an option as well. If you're still not sure after checking them out, play it safe and stick with CELTA. It might cost a couple hundred more up front but, frankly, that's nothing over the the course of several years of TEFL income. Consider it an investment, not an expense. |
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natsume
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 409 Location: Chongqing, China
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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For what I've increasingly felt is an inextricable reason, my "generic" TEFL certificate had only 4 hours of supervised/observed/assessed teaching practice with real students in a classroom setting.
It is from UC Berkeley, which is probably a plus, but this irks me whenever I hear the industry standard with the magic number of "6 hours" thrown around.
My MA offers a 3-unit internship for those without experience. I have plenty of experience, and I will be teaching EAP writing courses during the MA, but I still wonder if I should push for this. Any thoughts? |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:00 am Post subject: |
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natsume wrote: |
My MA offers a 3-unit internship for those without experience. I have plenty of experience, and I will be teaching EAP writing courses during the MA, but I still wonder if I should push for this. Any thoughts? |
It really depends on your intended career trajectory. I never did a TESOL cert, nor did my MA include an internship, and that's never been an issue as far as finding work. Then again, my TESOL-related employment experience is fairly narrow, so perhaps not having formal supervised teaching experience could have been an issue for me had my career led me in a different direction. I suspect, however, that many of the more experienced teachers on this forum would encourage you to do the internship. Frankly, whether you "need" it or not, it will likely make you a better teacher which is never a bad thing. |
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wangdaning
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Laugh at Berkeley and their 3 unit courses. I graduated from there so not a hit on you.
Honestly, it will be as good as any of the others. A teacher who wants to learn and teach will do it. No manner of conditioning will help. A telf/celta/whatever might help someone who is unsure, but being here I can say it is not necessary. I know, people will say don't mislead, I am really not trying to. Some people need it, it helps direct them into a good rhythm. Most don't, and class control can be easily learned. These programs teach a few theories, it is all available for free. How you execute the stuff might help, but anyway I will drop my rant. |
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