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tomseslcafe



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:19 am    Post subject: The British Council Reply with quote

I am considering applying to teach in southeast Asia with the British Council. I am currently teaching in Shenzhen, China and I asked some of the British teachers about it and they said that it has a good reputation but they don't pay very well. These teachers have not actually worked there, can anyone confirm this about the pay? Also, I have a 120 hour TEFL and they seem to prefer a CELTA. Would they accept my TEFL? I had to work very hard for my TEFL and as far as I can tell it is almost exactly like a CELTA.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: The British Council Reply with quote

tomseslcafe wrote:
Also, I have a 120 hour TEFL and they seem to prefer a CELTA. Would they accept my TEFL? I had to work very hard for my TEFL and as far as I can tell it is almost exactly like a CELTA.

For comparison, the CELTA is 120 hours of (in-person) instruction that also includes 6 hours of supervised/observed/assessed teaching practice with real students in a classroom setting.
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tomseslcafe



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that, my TEFL is 120 hours and it included me teaching 6 supervised practice classes.
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oxi



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomseslcafe wrote:
I understand that, my TEFL is 120 hours and it included me teaching 6 supervised practice classes.


Is it the trinity one? Should be ok.
Other ones - 'it depends' is the only definite answer.
It won't hurt to apply.

I left BCHK about 7 years ago. Then it was ok money and job satisfaction. According to more recent staff it's been up and down, mostly down regarding salary (was 30K, now 26 or 27 I think). Teachers are younger and less experienced (because less money?). Management getting more pushy and expecting staff to work full day Sat/Sun and 2 or 3 split shifts other days (morning/eve).

The people I know there tend to moan a bit, but still stay for more than one contract.


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psychedelicacy



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BC get £100m from the taxpayer. Their salaries usually beat local market averages. They are on the low side in the Middle East. In Dubai and Abu Dhabi, their salaries border on poor, but in Asia, they tend to be way above the market, as far as I know. Accommodation, if provided, should be okay as well. However, the thing you need to bear in mind is the government subsidy and the fact that they are nonprofit.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psychedelicacy wrote:
The BC get £100m from the taxpayer.


Is that true?

http://www.britishcouncil.org/organisation/facts/key-issues/our-paid-services
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that they got a zillion Interstellar Credits from the Intergalactic Council for the promotion of Standard Interterran.

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Hod



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite possibly, but more accurately is the number of BC schools which is kept at around 100 worldwide. If they're averaging £1 million of taxpayers' money each, I'm applying to be TCM of anywhere immediately. That's a lot of copies of Headway, at least that's what my expenses will say.
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tomseslcafe



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whenever I look at a British Council job posting they always say "competitive salary". Can anyone give me an example of a city and country that they worked in and how much the British Council payed?
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psychedelicacy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod wrote:
psychedelicacy wrote:
The BC get £100m from the taxpayer.


Is that true?

http://www.britishcouncil.org/organisation/facts/key-issues/our-paid-services


The Teaching Centre Manager at the centre I worked for said so, and that was about a year ago.

Your link says: "There is no subsidy for our income-generating activities from our taxpayer funding"; yet also "our income-generating activities are a core part of our cultural relations work."

Make of that what you will.
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psychedelicacy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod wrote:
Quite possibly, but more accurately is the number of BC schools which is kept at around 100 worldwide. If they're averaging £1 million of taxpayers' money each, I'm applying to be TCM of anywhere immediately. That's a lot of copies of Headway, at least that's what my expenses will say.


Your very own source (did you even read it?) says that, essentially, teaching centres do not receive taxpayers' money.
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oxi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomseslcafe wrote:
Whenever I look at a British Council job posting they always say "competitive salary". Can anyone give me an example of a city and country that they worked in and how much the British Council payed?


Did you try the BC website? - all teacher vacancies give the salary range.

eg. BC Singapore:-
Salary on a scale ranging from approximately S$4,466 per month to S$5,020 per month
eg. BC Sri Lanka:-
A rupee salary on a ten-point scale from Rs235,431 – 307,184 per month.
For staff recruited from outside Sri Lanka, a sterling allowance of £485 per month.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And no education allowance for dependants, unless you are one of the permanent staff. Oxbridge graduates given preference for those jobs, of course. Teaching is ok for the oiks but you need the old school tie for the good jobs !
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Hod



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

psychedelicacy wrote:
The BC get £100m from the taxpayer.

psychedelicacy wrote:
Your very own source (did you even read it?) says that, essentially, teaching centres do not receive taxpayers' money.

My favourite thing about this forum is that because we’re all current or former members of the teaching profession, we can explain things clearly and unambiguously. I’m glad we sorted out the BC tax question.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have petitioned the intergalactic Council under the Freedom of Information (Terrestrial Lifeforms) Ordinance.
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