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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: Irish gay marriage referendum |
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What´s wrong with gay marriage in Limerick? If Patrick fits Gerald and Gerald fits Patrick, what´s the problem? Most of my gay friends are right behind the Irish q*****.  |
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Dedicated
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 972 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ireland have voted overwhelmingly in favour of marriage equality. It is the first country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage by a popular vote. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Satan has been at work ? |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Dedicated wrote: |
It is the first country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage by a popular vote. |
And in a country that historically and religiously has taken a very conservative stance in that regard. Truly amazing!!! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Begorrah - the Bishop will be deeply saddened. But if anyone thinks this will make the Catholic Church sit up and listen,well, I haven't seen any pigs flying by lately.
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
But if anyone thinks this will make the Catholic Church sit up and listen,well, I haven't seen any pigs flying by lately. |
So very true. Though, it seems that most Irish Catholics are choosing not to listen to their religious leaders right now, at least not on this issue. So in a sense, pigs are flying in spite of papal decrees to stay put. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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And birth control is very popular among American Catholics. But deaf ears won't hear. It's not a democracy.
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Dedicated wrote: |
Ireland have voted overwhelmingly in favour of marriage equality. It is the first country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage by a popular vote. |
But why should a popular vote be necessary? The Irish have a democratically elected government to take such decisions. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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In fact they have 2 governments. Time they had 1.
26+6=32 |
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BadBeagleBad

Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 1186 Location: 24.18105,-103.25185
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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esl_prof wrote: |
johnslat wrote: |
But if anyone thinks this will make the Catholic Church sit up and listen,well, I haven't seen any pigs flying by lately. |
So very true. Though, it seems that most Irish Catholics are choosing not to listen to their religious leaders right now, at least not on this issue. So in a sense, pigs are flying in spite of papal decrees to stay put. |
Not just Irish Catholics. Some of you might know this already, but my mom is Irish, and has always been fairly critical of the pope (especially Ratzinger, about whom she said some fairly blasphemous things). And she is pretty conservative in most things, but has not problem with not being critical. Mexican Catholics, too, pick and choose what to believe. The thing is, you can´t force a belief. You can chose to follow a doctrine while not believing. Nevertheless, I am fairly surprised, but in a good way, that Ireland is the first country in the world to make this a law. |
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scot47

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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Not the first - that was the Netherlands. The first to have a referendum. |
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BadBeagleBad

Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 1186 Location: 24.18105,-103.25185
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that´s to be expected of godless socialists..... |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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But . . . but . . . then the defunct USSR should have done it decades ago. And North Korea? What are they waiting for?
Congratulation, though - you're probably the first to call priest-ridden Ireland a "godless society."
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:09 am Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Not the first - that was the Netherlands. The first to have a referendum. |
Which was, I think, followed by Canada. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:11 am Post subject: |
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BadBeagleBad wrote: |
Not just Irish Catholics. Some of you might know this already, but my mom is Irish, and has always been fairly critical of the pope (especially Ratzinger, about whom she said some fairly blasphemous things). And she is pretty conservative in most things, but has not problem with not being critical. Mexican Catholics, too, pick and choose what to believe. The thing is, you can´t force a belief. You can chose to follow a doctrine while not believing. Nevertheless, I am fairly surprised, but in a good way, that Ireland is the first country in the world to make this a law. |
Thanks for sharing, BBB! As always, very insightful. |
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