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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:50 am    Post subject: British or American? Reply with quote

Would you say oh dear as a way to express surprise?
Seems like something Oscar Wilde would say, back in 1890.
Kind of dated to me, or would it sound posh and contemporary?
Sounds like what an English woman would say.


As an American I would say that's too bad.

I work with a few Brits and although they speak English, some things seem a bit off.
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Miura Anjin



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd use "oh dear" for disappointment or sympathy, but not surprise.  (I'm British.)
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, for sympathy, but would a man or woman say it equally?
To me, I thought it was something a British woman would say.

Americans or Canadians would not say this.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other question I would ask is, does it sound posh?
Does it sound like someone would say in London?
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you say you eat or drink soup?
I would say I eat soup
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Knedliki



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: British or American? Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:


I work with a few Brits and although they speak English.


Ten out of ten for your global awareness.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
Would you say you eat or drink soup?
I would say I eat soup

I'd probably avoid the more 'literal' items and thus "issue" altogether by saying simply that I'd HAD a bowl of soup for lunch or whenever.

Re. Oh dear, I think I've heard it quite often used to express not only genuine, but also mock (ironic) sympathy in BrE.
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Snuff



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also say "Oh dear", to express mild disappointment. In formal situations, at least. When I'm around friends or family, it's a more empthatic, "No."

For surprise, I usually just say "Oh!" Unless I'm around friends, in which case a swear word is thrown in.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:



I work with a few Brits and although they speak English, some things seem a bit off.


Do you realise how patronising/superior this sounds? Of course, the English language has indeed changed drastically and that American English is more popular worldwide, but don't forget that English comes from England, so if anything is off it's American English.

mitsui wrote:
Yes, for sympathy, but would a man or woman say it equally?
To me, I thought it was something a British woman would say.

Americans or Canadians would not say this.


No, it's not feminine and could be equally said by a man or woman.

mitsui wrote:
The other question I would ask is, does it sound posh?
Does it sound like someone would say in London?


What has posh and London got to do with it? Your phrasing makes the two somehow seem connected.

No, I don't think it's that posh.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes! I'm American and even I find the OP's statements about British English cringeworthy. Talk about stereotypes. Shocked
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Shelby



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm British and I would tend to use 'oh dear' when talking to a child who has just suffered what they see as a major misfortune (eg a broken toy). It would feel a bit patronising to say it to an adult.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee willikins !
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Miura Anjin



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
Yes, for sympathy, but would a man or woman say it equally?
To me, I thought it was something a British woman would say.

Americans or Canadians would not say this.


As others have mentioned, it tends to be used by both men and women and I've heard people from many areas of the country use it.

I suppose though it might depend on the context - Snuff's example is a good one.
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