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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:50 am Post subject: British or American? |
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Would you say oh dear as a way to express surprise?
Seems like something Oscar Wilde would say, back in 1890.
Kind of dated to me, or would it sound posh and contemporary?
Sounds like what an English woman would say.
As an American I would say that's too bad.
I work with a few Brits and although they speak English, some things seem a bit off. |
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Miura Anjin
Joined: 20 Aug 2014 Posts: 40 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'd use "oh dear" for disappointment or sympathy, but not surprise. (I'm British.) |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, for sympathy, but would a man or woman say it equally?
To me, I thought it was something a British woman would say.
Americans or Canadians would not say this. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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The other question I would ask is, does it sound posh?
Does it sound like someone would say in London? |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Would you say you eat or drink soup?
I would say I eat soup |
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Knedliki
Joined: 08 May 2015 Posts: 160
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: British or American? |
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mitsui wrote: |
I work with a few Brits and although they speak English. |
Ten out of ten for your global awareness. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
Would you say you eat or drink soup?
I would say I eat soup |
I'd probably avoid the more 'literal' items and thus "issue" altogether by saying simply that I'd HAD a bowl of soup for lunch or whenever.
Re. Oh dear, I think I've heard it quite often used to express not only genuine, but also mock (ironic) sympathy in BrE. |
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Snuff
Joined: 07 Feb 2015 Posts: 10 Location: Prague
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I also say "Oh dear", to express mild disappointment. In formal situations, at least. When I'm around friends or family, it's a more empthatic, "No."
For surprise, I usually just say "Oh!" Unless I'm around friends, in which case a swear word is thrown in. |
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kpjf

Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 385
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
I work with a few Brits and although they speak English, some things seem a bit off. |
Do you realise how patronising/superior this sounds? Of course, the English language has indeed changed drastically and that American English is more popular worldwide, but don't forget that English comes from England, so if anything is off it's American English.
mitsui wrote: |
Yes, for sympathy, but would a man or woman say it equally?
To me, I thought it was something a British woman would say.
Americans or Canadians would not say this. |
No, it's not feminine and could be equally said by a man or woman.
mitsui wrote: |
The other question I would ask is, does it sound posh?
Does it sound like someone would say in London? |
What has posh and London got to do with it? Your phrasing makes the two somehow seem connected.
No, I don't think it's that posh. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yikes! I'm American and even I find the OP's statements about British English cringeworthy. Talk about stereotypes.  |
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Shelby
Joined: 24 Dec 2010 Posts: 66 Location: Russia
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm British and I would tend to use 'oh dear' when talking to a child who has just suffered what they see as a major misfortune (eg a broken toy). It would feel a bit patronising to say it to an adult. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Gee willikins ! |
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Miura Anjin
Joined: 20 Aug 2014 Posts: 40 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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mitsui wrote: |
Yes, for sympathy, but would a man or woman say it equally?
To me, I thought it was something a British woman would say.
Americans or Canadians would not say this. |
As others have mentioned, it tends to be used by both men and women and I've heard people from many areas of the country use it.
I suppose though it might depend on the context - Snuff's example is a good one. |
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