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mitsui · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki

Here is another one. In a sandwich if you add a slice of tomato, lettuce and an onion slice they are a salad. WTF? To me they are just vegetables.

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea

A salad is, by definition, just a mixture of vegetables. Fancie pants vinaigrette or crappy Kraft dressing not required. True, in North America (speaking for Canadians), we don't commonly use the term "salad" to describe the mixture of vegetables between bread. The term is not incorrect. In Canadian French, the term made it across the pond ("salade", when asking for vegetables in a "sous-marin"), but for some reason it didn't in Canadian English.

mitsui · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/salad?s=t

Don't see that mentioned.

I don't teach French. I teach American English.

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea

Merriam-Webster has it, as does any basic cookbook.

wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

buravirgil · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:36 am Post subject:

Common usage is often derived from simpler terms. A salad can be any vegetable suitable for eating raw...meanwhile

Women Laughing Alone with Salad (Tumbler)

santi84 · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea

mitsui · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki

So at best that is a non-standard variety.
Even in London people would not say that.

3701 W.119th · Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Central China

Add lettuce and tomato (and usually a bit of salad cream / mayo) to any sandwich and it becomes a 'X salad sandwich'. Chicken salad sandwich, ham salad sandwich, etc. Add it to a bacon butty and it becomes a BLT.

I've never considered the bacon or sausage butty to be a 'sandwich', but more a distinct breakfast item.

What are we talking about again?

mitsui · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki

I really have to wonder if its thanks to Subway that anyone would use
this expression.

HLJHLJ · Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador

mitsui · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki

Nope, I found one. He is from southern England.
All I ask is that there would be an equivalent to that.
I don't work for a British school.
British teachers will teach British English in class.
But as an American, I will not.

British materials are fine when you work in Europe.
Not so much in Japan.

Probably none of my students will ever go to the UK,
but there is a good chance students could go to Hawaii.
If there is an international or North American example as well as "salad", then I would have no problem.

Not all teachers are British at my school. People from Canada, the US, and Australia.

No misery, just annoyed.

I am from the US and don't need to learn a new dialect.

HLJHLJ · Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador

mitsui · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki

Yet my Canadian co-worker agrees with me.
I tend to keep my opinions to myself.

3701 W.119th · Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Central China

I've never thought of myself as teaching British English. I just teach English. I'll introduce the American equivalent when the difference merits using both (which is very rarely, in my limited experience). For example, in this morning's lesson - ordering in a restaurant - I mentioned that Americans call chips 'French fries' and starters 'appetizers'.

It's never been more than a quick aside, the occasional bit of lexis here and there. Fundamentally it's the same language. It's English.

Is there really an issue with mutual intelligibility? News to me.