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mitsui
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Here is another one. In a sandwich if you add a slice of tomato, lettuce and an onion slice they are a salad. WTF? To me they are just vegetables. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| A salad is, by definition, just a mixture of vegetables. Fancie pants vinaigrette or crappy Kraft dressing not required. True, in North America (speaking for Canadians), we don't commonly use the term "salad" to describe the mixture of vegetables between bread. The term is not incorrect. In Canadian French, the term made it across the pond ("salade", when asking for vegetables in a "sous-marin"), but for some reason it didn't in Canadian English. |
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mitsui
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santi84
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Merriam-Webster has it, as does any basic cookbook. |
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wangdaning
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| santi84 wrote: |
| Merriam-Webster has it, as does any basic cookbook. |
I have never seen a cookbook that called veggies in a meal salad unless it was salad. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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santi84
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| wangdaning wrote: |
| santi84 wrote: |
| Merriam-Webster has it, as does any basic cookbook. |
I have never seen a cookbook that called veggies in a meal salad unless it was salad. |
Basic culinary cookbooks that focus on prep and technique, rather than recipes. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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So at best that is a non-standard variety.
Even in London people would not say that. |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Central China
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Add lettuce and tomato (and usually a bit of salad cream / mayo) to any sandwich and it becomes a 'X salad sandwich'. Chicken salad sandwich, ham salad sandwich, etc. Add it to a bacon butty and it becomes a BLT.
I've never considered the bacon or sausage butty to be a 'sandwich', but more a distinct breakfast item.
What are we talking about again? |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:18 am Post subject: |
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I really have to wonder if its thanks to Subway that anyone would use
this expression. |
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HLJHLJ
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| mitsui wrote: |
So at best that is a non-standard variety.
Even in London people would not say that. |
You would struggle to find anyone in the UK who doesn't call lettuce, tomato, etc in a sandwich 'salad', even in London.
How can anyone with such a rigid view of language survive as an English teacher? Obsessing over such trivial differences can only be making you miserable. |
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