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patchwork
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:05 am Post subject: can't get an interview - wtf is wrong with me |
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hi everyone,
well, I landed in Taipei last week and started looking for jobs the past couple of days. So far, the only person to get back to me was for a job somewhere on a remote island.
I have a Trinity cert TESOL and 2 year college diploma (no BA). I have some random teaching experience but nothing big.
I am Canadian but my name is Indian - my dad is from India.
now what the bleep am I doing wrong? My girlfriend found a job without even looking, it just fell on her lap and it pays super well. The only person who wanted to interview me here in Taipei was for a part time job and they wouldn't give me an ARC. I have a 30 day visa, so I need to get an ARC if I'm going to stay.
thanks for the help. |
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Pop Fly
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Hit the streets man. Walk in to every school you see. Practice doing your demo and bone up on your negotiation skills. Treat looking for a job like a job.
If u spend 8 hours canvassing Taipei, you'll have 5 offers.
However, you may experience some difficulty withy the ARC. You, imho, don't meet the requirements. Its visa runs for you my son.
I may be wrong about that....but, then again, I may be right. |
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Rice Paddy Daddy
Joined: 11 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Yet again, Pop Fly is wrong.
As long as you have an English teaching qualification and a 2 year diploma you meet the requirements to obtain an ARC for teaching English in Taiwan. |
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Fortigurn
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Rice Paddy Daddy wrote: |
Yet again, Pop Fly is wrong.
As long as you have an English teaching qualification and a 2 year diploma you meet the requirements to obtain an ARC for teaching English in Taiwan. |
Only a 2 year diploma? Whatever happened to the degree rule? When did that change?  |
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Pop Fly
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Fortigurn wrote: |
| Rice Paddy Daddy wrote: |
Yet again, Pop Fly is wrong.
As long as you have an English teaching qualification and a 2 year diploma you meet the requirements to obtain an ARC for teaching English in Taiwan. |
Only a 2 year diploma? Whatever happened to the degree rule? When did that change? |
My point exactly. At least I prefaced my potential misinformation with a caveat. Unlike other irresposible posters who fling poo about the web willy-nilly and hither-thither. |
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balrog
Joined: 17 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: Not wrong just in the wrong situation |
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A degree is required for an ARC - a TEFL/CELTA etc is not a teaching qualification per se and does not qualify for the exemption but get someone to check with your local Foreign Affairs police. Your only real option if U want to stay is to get a student visa and work illegally.
Good luck. |
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Rice Paddy Daddy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:33 am Post subject: |
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A Canadian friend has a 2 year diploma from the University of Ottawa.
He also earned a TEFL certificate.
He has obtained an ARC through his school.
So, it is possible to obtain an ARC with a 2 year diploma. |
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Pop Fly
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Rice Paddy Daddy wrote: |
A Canadian friend has a 2 year diploma from the University of Ottawa.
He also earned a TEFL certificate.
He has obtained an ARC through his school.
So, it is possible to obtain an ARC with a 2 year diploma. |
Could it be that due to his parchment being on UofO stationary, he fooled the powers that be, thereby being more exception than rule????
I don't think someone with a hospitality diploma from Mount Royal College is gonna get an ARC.....but that's just my thoughts. Alot here depends on the mood of the person processing your paperwork. OTR= Visa Run. |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:01 am Post subject: |
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It's true. One of the little known rules re: ARCs is you can get one with a two year diploma as long as you have a tesl diploma of some sort as well. It's less well known and definitely less prefered. But yes, it is possible for this guy to get an ARC.
I was in Taipei today applying for a license for my car. I went to the Ximen ding area afterward. I was in a back alley somewhere when a guy who looked like a bum (ancient scooter loaded full of crap included) gave me a business card and asked me to work for his school. If I can get an offer in a back alley from a bum, jobs should come your way with a little effort.
On the other hand, we are closing in on the end of the year. Not the best time to look right now. Also, you should have got a 60 day visa. A trip to Hong Kong looms... |
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Rice Paddy Daddy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| It's true. One of the little known rules re: ARCs is you can get one with a two year diploma as long as you have a tesl diploma of some sort as well. It's less well known and definitely less prefered. But yes, it is possible for this guy to get an ARC. |
Yeah, I was a little surprised at first when he told me about his not having a degree - just a TEFL and 2 year diploma. I'd never heard of that before.
He's been here a couple of years now and hasn't had any problems. |
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matchstick_man
Joined: 21 May 2003
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| Maybe it's the use of the F word when things don't go your way. Just smile and forget about it. |
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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I am sorry to have to tell you this but Taiwan is an extremely racist non country. When most local employers see that your name is Indian and you are not a blond haired blue eyed "Native North American", they will disqualify you for the job.
Racism permeates all levels of society on Taiwan and is reinforced by both the local education system and the government of the Republic of China.
The only racial discrimination laws on Taiwan encourage racial discrimination. Taiwan is rapidly moving towards an Apartheid style system.
Please don't give up. Write about your experiences on Taiwan and send me a copy for general distribution.
You can make a difference.
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It's true. One of the little known rules re: ARCs is you can get one with a two year diploma as long as you have a tesl diploma of some sort as well. It's less well known and definitely less prefered. But yes, it is possible for this guy to get an ARC.
Yeah, I was a little surprised at first when he told me about his not having a degree - just a TEFL and 2 year diploma. I'd never heard of that before.
He's been here a couple of years now and hasn't had any problems. |
There are always exceptions to any rule in Taiwan. Usually exceptions are a direct result of quanxi or bribes.
Individuals issued an ARC as a teacher with an Associates degree plus a TESOL certificate is not unheard of for buxi ban teachers.
The old rule of any four year degree to get an ARC as a teacher may be giving way to more pragmatic qualification requirements.
I have not yet found an report from a government agency that permits this but that does not mean it is not permitted. On Taiwan the exception can very easily be the rule and usually is.
Good luck,
A. |
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matchstick_man
Joined: 21 May 2003
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How to discredit yourself in one post and give away your nationality: see above. There are plenty of non-blonde-non-blue eyed Non north Americans teaching in Taiwan. Four year degree = Three year degree in non-North America. I know a few coloured guys who are teaching here.
Though I agree with the bottom part of the post as I know someone who had to enrol in a TESOL course in Taipei due to having only a diploma so he could get an ARC. |
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killian
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| what far-off island was that job offer on? |
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Aristotle
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| Though I agree with the bottom part of the post as I know someone who had to enrol in a TESOL course in Taipei due to having only a diploma so he could get an ARC. |
TESOL or in some cases a teaching certificates from abroad may be required by the CLA for obtaining an ARC as a teacher in schools deemed to be regular schools . Examples would include Primary, Elementary, Junior High, Secondary and High School teaching positions both public and private.
Probably why so many of the teachers in these schools are working illegally.
Good luck,
A. |
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