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Sage
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 Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: Words and Sounds |
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| "Zed" is a word, "Zee/Zii" is a sound. |
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shmooj
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| "irrelevant" is a word too |
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Kremlin
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Double-yew is a word, "wuh" is a sound.
What's your point? |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Stupid is as stupid does (it's on TV at the moment). |
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jackk
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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if you wanna stretch this to other linguas; L is a letter in English,
and elle is a word in French. |
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JimDunlop2
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| What the hell is the point of this thread? |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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"A" and "I" are words and sounds. "U" is a sound, but if yo u spell it "you", it is also a word.
Same for "B/be/bee", "C/see/sea/si", "G/gee", "J/jay", "O/oh", "P/pee", "R/are", "T/tea/tee", and "Y/why".
Gee, this is so cool!
The point, Jim? None. |
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worlddiva
Joined: 03 Mar 2004
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Location: Montreal, Quebec, CANADA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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ok...ok...
Although I say Zed (yeah for Canada), I know Zed`s dead.
my 2 yens worth! |
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bzakka
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
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Location: Santiago, Chile
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:33 am Post subject: huh? |
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mai katsu burethu sumelsu laiku katu fudo.
10 points for the Japanese translation!! |
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JimDunlop2
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Ok.... But if you're going to katakanize, make sure you use proper modified Hepburn... 
There are no "tu" and "th" sounds in Japanese. Just "to" or "tsu" and "da" or "za", respectively.
mai katto no buresu sumeruzu raiku katto fuudo.
マイ カット の ブレス スメルズ ライク カット フード。 |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| JimDunlop2 wrote: |
Ok.... But if you're going to katakanize, make sure you use proper modified Hepburn...
There are no "tu" and "th" sounds in Japanese. Just "to" or "tsu" and "da" or "za", respectively.
mai katto no buresu sumeruzu raiku katto fuudo.
マイ カット の ブレス スメルズ ライク カット フード。 |
Jim I hate to be picky, but if you include Japanese no (of) you are translating the sentence using Japanese (instead of Katakana-izing into English) and would need Japanese word order as "no" is not the English "no" but the Japanese "of".
My cat, "No Breath" smells like cat food.
Not only that I think the katakana of cat is not katto (sounds like Kato) but kyatto. |
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sethness
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:25 am Post subject: Welcome to America. |
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Zed is what Brits call the letter "Z".
"Zee" is what Americans call the letter "Z".
Yeah, OK, so Americans have a different way of doing things. So what ?
You're not going to make 270 million Americans and umpteen million English students change to saying "zed" just because you've posted a complaint on Dave's ESL cafe. (No offense Dave, but if y'had THAT kind of power, I'd see what you could do about undoing a recent American election before you turn your attention to the "Z" controversy.) |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Words and Sounds |
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| Sage wrote: |
| "Zed" is a word, "Zee/Zii" is a sound. |
"Z" is a letter of the alphabet. How it is pronounced (Zee/Zed) is called a phoneme, (or a minimum unit of language to get technical).
B is a letter, "Buh" is a phoneme if you get my drift. There are often several sounds or phonemes for the same letter. |
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worlddiva
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Location: Montreal, Quebec, CANADA
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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did anyone get the pulp fiction reference or what? 
just wondering |
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