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crashartist1
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 164
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I just heard the news that the current DoS is leaving, she is going to Spain. After a few years in Istanbul she has decided it was time for a change. Well we can�t keep all the great teachers here forever I guess.
And do you have this worthless piece of paper 31? I don't think it is worthless, and I don't believe you can say that it is worthless. I thought the course was worth the energy, helping me to learn the roots of our language, like a map of sorts. There are many times I have used the material as references, I think it is a good buy, besides it is more difficult to find a job without it. Sure it is not a major course, but it helps to learn. I would be lead to believe that a majority of us who have a TEFL think it has been of great use, unlike your useless ranting. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I would be lead to believe that a majority of us who have a TEFL think it has been of great use, unlike your useless ranting.
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I know 31 will flame me for this but I applaud your comments crashartist1. Thank you. |
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teacherdude
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 260
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I would be lead to believe that a majority of us who have a TEFL think it has been of great use, unlike your useless ranting.
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I know 31 will flame me for this but I applaud your comments crashartist1. Thank you. |
The Dude has got to throw in some applause as well.
Sometimes, I do get tired of the mindless dribble. But I thought the Dude was singular in this opinion...
Regards,
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Nope, definitely plural. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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And do you have this worthless piece of paper 31?
No. When I started my tefl career (career-ha ha) Kent English was a crappy little place off Bahariye and was equally badly run by a dodgy Turk. They did have 1 contract with a high school to supply 1 teacher but their few ''teachers'' would do runners coz of unpaid wages. The only place in Ist that offered ''a tefl'' was the British Council and it was the RSA CTEFLA, now the CELTA. If course tefl has nosedived since then and any number of dodgy places offer any number of ''tefls.'' Course I paid roughly the same amount as Via Lingua charge for the CTEFLA but at least it is/was internationally recognised.
I don't think it is worthless, and I don't believe you can say that it is worthless.
Of course you don`t you paid 1100 Euros for it.
I thought the course was worth the energy, helping me to learn the roots of our language, like a map of sorts.
Library. Still free.
There are many times I have used the material as references, I think it is a good buy, besides it is more difficult to find a job without it.
Wrong. You get the job because you are a native speaker, nothing more nothing less. Of course a few impressive looking certificates or photocopies of same are something to show at the interview. Of course it is really you who is doing the interviewing and they never check so you could have made your own certificate or photocopied a mate`s. But one of the strengths of places like Via Lingua is they con the newbies who are naiive and don`t realise until they are a few years into their careers and have parted with the cash. As a test would your employer employ a Turk with just the Via Lingua tefl or would he insist on a 4 year ELT degree from a university?
Sure it is not a major course,
Now we are talking.
I would be lead to believe that a majority of us who have a TEFL
Is tefl countable? |
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dmb

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I thought the course was worth the energy |
My god 31. You have become positive in your absence |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Eh? |
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crashartist1
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 164
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps in the past Kent English was dodgy place run by a questionable businessman, but today it is nowhere near a shadow of how you described it. From the building, to the teachers and administrators it is a very nice place offering small class sizes to help facilitate learning for the students and a small library to assist the teachers. |
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31
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 1797
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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A school with a small library? Let me guess I bet they also offer FREE airport pick ups for new teachers. I mean you wouldn`t expect a small library in a school would you? And it is taking the mick to expect to be picked up at the airport. |
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dmb

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Is a library necessary? I think not. There is enough material on the net. |
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molly farquharson
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 839 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, but a lot of people prefer to flip through a book. |
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dmb

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Molly, you are showing your age  |
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calsimsek

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Ist Turkey
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hay lay off the book readers . You tell'em Molly. The net is over rated. |
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molly farquharson
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 839 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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dmb never say that to a woman! bad boy. i like both the internet and books.  |
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bron
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 88
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I was picked up from the airport, and so were all my co-workers. I didn't expect to be, though!
And I prefer reading books in paper form, and I'm 24.  |
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