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Peru vs venzuela vs Argentina

 
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scthroumpf_voyager



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Peru vs venzuela vs Argentina Reply with quote

hi! i'm confused, i kinda set my heart on going to mexico first but then was told that there was quite a bit of tourist there and a lot of american student looking for teaching jobs. so i thought to myself, hmmmm... Peru and all i'm getting about peru is that's it very corrupt, pretty sad and that it is real hard to find a job there and so forth... so i'm in a bit of a pickle!!

English is not my first language. i'm a frenchie but i've been leaving in the Uk for 7 years now and i am passing my celta in september.

Is it gonna be harder for me to get a job because english 's not my mother tongue and because i don't actually have an university degree?

and where should i concentrate my search? peru? venezuela? maybe Argentina? if any of you have favorite cities in south america or good job links, any help will be greatly appreciated!

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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not having English as your first language is not necessarily a hindrance to getting EFL jobs. I just spent two months in Quito, Ecuador, and there were some non-native speakers teaching there.

Now, if you are wanting to make money, however, it could be a problem. The best paid jobs go to native speakers. But you can at least put some miles on your teaching odometer with the CELTA.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP might also want to look into teaching French in Latin America. It's not nearly as much in demand as English, but there is some work available.
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matttheboy



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
The OP might also want to look into teaching French in Latin America. It's not nearly as much in demand as English, but there is some work available.


Agreed, in Buenos Aires there's a small demand for French. Many Argentines moved to France during the dictatorship so family members who didn't, but want to go and visit, often take French lessons. I have a student who's also learning French for this reason and she said it's reasonably common. There are a few Alliance Francaise schools around and very little competition through adverts in the newspaper.

Also, i taught IELTS in Ecuador to a woman who planned to emmigrate to Canada. She needed a 6 instead of a 7 for immigration purposes if she had a basic level of French and she was taking French classes at a school in Quito.

However, i think it unlikely you'd find work as an English teacher as there are so many native speakers already here (BsAs), some qualified, some not. Local institutes will always choose native speakers or highly-qualified Argentines (there are a lot out of work) over non-natives.
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scthroumpf_voyager



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi! thanks guys for your outputs! i must say i don't know if i feel better or worse!! i've checked the jobs as a french teacher and apparently you need a bloody 4 years diploma to even enter a class room!! this really getting to me.
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so you said that i could still get a job even though i'm not a native speaker maybe in mexico or equador? i do have experience with children , i used to be a child coordinater out of high school for about year, will this help me?

do u reckon that international house london is a good place to pass my celta and do they help getting you a job?

thanks guys!
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Flo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyager - Please don�t be discouraged by some of the posters here. I live in Mexico and know for a fact that here are many place looking for French teachers. If you can teach both French and English, then more bonus points for you. The problem in Mexico is that the pay isn�t very good and living expenses can be high, depending on the city. Also, there is a considerable amount of competition here, and having a degree would be a plus, but not having one won�t necessarily make working impossible.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM me if you are interested in a uni job in Peru.
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k32081



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scthroumpf_voyager wrote:
hi! thanks guys for your outputs! i must say i don't know if i feel better or worse!! i've checked the jobs as a french teacher and apparently you need a bloody 4 years diploma to even enter a class room!! this really getting to me.
Shocked
so you said that i could still get a job even though i'm not a native speaker maybe in mexico or equador? i do have experience with children , i used to be a child coordinater out of high school for about year, will this help me?

do u reckon that international house london is a good place to pass my celta and do they help getting you a job?

thanks guys!


Don't let one person's opinion stop you from going to any particular place. I have heard that somtimes it doesn't hurt to just show up somewhere and try to find work. Of course, this could cause some problems if one were not prepared if they didn't find any work. I say go to wherever you desire to go the most. Some people get so stressed out ahead of time that they give up before they even started their adventure. There has to be a need for someone of your stature/qualification (especially if your tri-lingual).
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
PM me if you are interested in a uni job in Peru.
I dont mean to be negative here and I am not flaming. But shouldn't a prerequisite for a uni job be having a degree?
btw naturegirl i tried your website and I was told I was forbidden Crying or Very sad
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I don't know why access is denied, maybe the server is down.
BTW for the uni job here, they'd rather have you have a degree and one year experience, BUt there are always exceptions.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

There are plenty of non-natives teaching in Ecuador, and also a fair demand for french classes- but it's true that lack of a degree, plus non-native status, may block some of the better paid jobs.

IH in London is a perfectly respectable place to do a CELTA, and the CELTA is a highly standardized course in any case. A celta is a celta is a celta.

I might investigate French cultural organisations in the cities you're interested in before you depart, as your chances of a well paid job may be better in that area.

Regards,

Justin
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k32081



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true...
I also believe that lacking prior education or some form of a degree will make it harder for someone to obtain a job (I guess I assumed that everyone on this website was in the process of studying, going to school, or currently teaching since this is a website designed for students/teachers).
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