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scthroumpf_voyager
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 10 Location: london
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: Peru vs venzuela vs Argentina |
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hi! i'm confused, i kinda set my heart on going to mexico first but then was told that there was quite a bit of tourist there and a lot of american student looking for teaching jobs. so i thought to myself, hmmmm... Peru and all i'm getting about peru is that's it very corrupt, pretty sad and that it is real hard to find a job there and so forth... so i'm in a bit of a pickle!!
English is not my first language. i'm a frenchie but i've been leaving in the Uk for 7 years now and i am passing my celta in september.
Is it gonna be harder for me to get a job because english 's not my mother tongue and because i don't actually have an university degree?
and where should i concentrate my search? peru? venezuela? maybe Argentina? if any of you have favorite cities in south america or good job links, any help will be greatly appreciated!
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Not having English as your first language is not necessarily a hindrance to getting EFL jobs. I just spent two months in Quito, Ecuador, and there were some non-native speakers teaching there.
Now, if you are wanting to make money, however, it could be a problem. The best paid jobs go to native speakers. But you can at least put some miles on your teaching odometer with the CELTA. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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The OP might also want to look into teaching French in Latin America. It's not nearly as much in demand as English, but there is some work available. |
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matttheboy

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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ls650 wrote: |
The OP might also want to look into teaching French in Latin America. It's not nearly as much in demand as English, but there is some work available. |
Agreed, in Buenos Aires there's a small demand for French. Many Argentines moved to France during the dictatorship so family members who didn't, but want to go and visit, often take French lessons. I have a student who's also learning French for this reason and she said it's reasonably common. There are a few Alliance Francaise schools around and very little competition through adverts in the newspaper.
Also, i taught IELTS in Ecuador to a woman who planned to emmigrate to Canada. She needed a 6 instead of a 7 for immigration purposes if she had a basic level of French and she was taking French classes at a school in Quito.
However, i think it unlikely you'd find work as an English teacher as there are so many native speakers already here (BsAs), some qualified, some not. Local institutes will always choose native speakers or highly-qualified Argentines (there are a lot out of work) over non-natives. |
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scthroumpf_voyager
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 10 Location: london
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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hi! thanks guys for your outputs! i must say i don't know if i feel better or worse!! i've checked the jobs as a french teacher and apparently you need a bloody 4 years diploma to even enter a class room!! this really getting to me.
so you said that i could still get a job even though i'm not a native speaker maybe in mexico or equador? i do have experience with children , i used to be a child coordinater out of high school for about year, will this help me?
do u reckon that international house london is a good place to pass my celta and do they help getting you a job?
thanks guys! |
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Flo
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 112
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Voyager - Please don�t be discouraged by some of the posters here. I live in Mexico and know for a fact that here are many place looking for French teachers. If you can teach both French and English, then more bonus points for you. The problem in Mexico is that the pay isn�t very good and living expenses can be high, depending on the city. Also, there is a considerable amount of competition here, and having a degree would be a plus, but not having one won�t necessarily make working impossible. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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PM me if you are interested in a uni job in Peru. |
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k32081
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 15 Location: Quillacoyo, Bolivia, South America
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:25 am Post subject: |
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scthroumpf_voyager wrote: |
hi! thanks guys for your outputs! i must say i don't know if i feel better or worse!! i've checked the jobs as a french teacher and apparently you need a bloody 4 years diploma to even enter a class room!! this really getting to me.
so you said that i could still get a job even though i'm not a native speaker maybe in mexico or equador? i do have experience with children , i used to be a child coordinater out of high school for about year, will this help me?
do u reckon that international house london is a good place to pass my celta and do they help getting you a job?
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Don't let one person's opinion stop you from going to any particular place. I have heard that somtimes it doesn't hurt to just show up somewhere and try to find work. Of course, this could cause some problems if one were not prepared if they didn't find any work. I say go to wherever you desire to go the most. Some people get so stressed out ahead of time that they give up before they even started their adventure. There has to be a need for someone of your stature/qualification (especially if your tri-lingual). |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
PM me if you are interested in a uni job in Peru. |
I dont mean to be negative here and I am not flaming. But shouldn't a prerequisite for a uni job be having a degree?
btw naturegirl i tried your website and I was told I was forbidden  |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, I don't know why access is denied, maybe the server is down.
BTW for the uni job here, they'd rather have you have a degree and one year experience, BUt there are always exceptions. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi there,
There are plenty of non-natives teaching in Ecuador, and also a fair demand for french classes- but it's true that lack of a degree, plus non-native status, may block some of the better paid jobs.
IH in London is a perfectly respectable place to do a CELTA, and the CELTA is a highly standardized course in any case. A celta is a celta is a celta.
I might investigate French cultural organisations in the cities you're interested in before you depart, as your chances of a well paid job may be better in that area.
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Justin |
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k32081
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 15 Location: Quillacoyo, Bolivia, South America
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Very true...
I also believe that lacking prior education or some form of a degree will make it harder for someone to obtain a job (I guess I assumed that everyone on this website was in the process of studying, going to school, or currently teaching since this is a website designed for students/teachers). |
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