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SITC timeclock cheats teachers

 
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Blade



Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: SITC timeclock cheats teachers Reply with quote

At SITC there is a timeclock that teachers have to clock in at before their shift. Just like a factory.

The problem is that the timeclock is slow and the administration is actually taking money from teachers' pay for being late, as a fine, even though they were on time.

The timeclock is slow.


Avoid this place like the plague.
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therock



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that just the one branch? Where is that branch located? Hanoi or HCMC?. I got offered a position with this school in Hanoi via the internet. I have heard a few bad rumours so I doubt that I will accept. Is it true that they take 25% of your pay for tax?
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E$L



Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that the timeclock is slow and the administration is actually taking money from teachers' pay for being late, as a fine, even though they were on time.

It seems like an odd move from the school's point of view. Surely teachers arrive well before the lesson in order to be sufficiently prepared. Using this system would send a signal that this wasn't expected?

More importantly though: do you know if the teachers have taken this up with the management?
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mr.pete



Joined: 02 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At SITC there is a timeclock that teachers have to clock in at before their shift. Just like a factory.

The problem is that the timeclock is slow and the administration is actually taking money from teachers' pay for being late, as a fine, even though they were on time.

The timeclock is slow.


If the clock was slow, then the teachers would be early. Very Happy
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Paul John



Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of years ago, I taught a couple of classes at SITC's District 10 building. The time clock was one of a number of reasons why I pulled the pin.

As Blade said, it was slow - about five minutes slow. So, I would start my class at 5:30PM according to my watch *and* the clock in the staff room, and finish at 7:00PM sharp. By the time I got downstairs and signed out, it was 7:03 or 7:04 by my watch. Since I had another class immediately following at another school, I clocked out at 6:58 according to the time clock... and found my pay docked a few thousand dong the following pay day. Not much, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, the exchange rate they used was about 200VND under the standard. All in all, I guess I lost out on maybe 80,000 dong - not much, but the constant nickel-and-diming of teachers was both unnecessary and highly annoying.
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Snaff



Joined: 20 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul John wrote:
The time clock was one of a number of reasons why I pulled the pin.

As Blade said, it was slow - about five minutes slow. So, I would start my class at 5:30PM according to my watch *and* the clock in the staff room, and finish at 7:00PM sharp. By the time I got downstairs and signed out, it was 7:03 or 7:04 by my watch. Since I had another class immediately following at another school, I clocked out at 6:58 according to the time clock... and found my pay docked a few thousand dong the following pay day. Not much, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, the exchange rate they used was about 200VND under the standard. All in all, I guess I lost out on maybe 80,000 dong - not much, but the constant nickel-and-diming of teachers was both unnecessary and highly annoying.


Too bad. They lost a good teacher over this.

But what you noted is bad treatment in principal, and practice.
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