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mrjohndub

Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 198 Location: Saitama, Japan
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: Love hotel 'etiquette' |
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Please excuse the post for seeming crude, but I'm really not that well-versed in love hotel etiquette.
I guess I could really just use a primer on how to handle the love hotel thing like a pro, but what I really want to know is...is it okay to bring more than one woman? I'm interested in bringing two. Is that okay?
Is anybody experienced with this?
My bad...I don't know whom to ask. My Japanese is poor. |
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Speed

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Shikoku Land
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Now this is a topic that really hits close to home.
You can bring as many ladies as you can manage to pull. The hotels don't care if you bring in just 2 or 3 ladies.
Tell us how you get on. |
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Big John Stud
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 513
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yea you can bring in as many ladies as you want! The only thing love hotels don't allow is for someone to stay alone. |
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pnksweater
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 173 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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If you're worried about being confronted about the number of your "guests" choose a love hotel with zero human interaction. Some love hotels have someone you pay behind frosted glass. These are a no-no. Go for the ones with lighted displays to select your room and a pneumatic or other "touchless" payment system. That way they'll have no chance (or idea) to foil your fun. |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Big John Stud wrote: |
Yea you can bring in as many ladies as you want! The only thing love hotels don't allow is for someone to stay alone. |
Are you guys kidding me? Is that first-hand information? Or something that someone told you?
There are many more rules than that -- and if you fail to follow them, then it's little wonder that a number of love hotel refuse foreign clientelle. The following doesn't apply to ALL hotels, but definitely can be used as a general guide.
First off, trying to get in with two people of the same sex is a huge no-no. Not everywhere, but in many places.
Second, many places have signs up saying "no prostitutes allowed." If that's the case, you may find yourself trying to explain to the hotel staff that your two ladies are not paid entertainment...
Thirdly, as was mentioned, staying alone is a no-no too.
Lastly, though I agree in most part with the "automated" hotel comment, don't think that these automated hotels don't have live staff. They do, they're just more discreet about it, and won't appear unless something is amiss.
There are guides up on the Internet on how to use love hotels properly... Look around and do some Google searches and I'm sure you'll find them just as easily as I did when I was looking for that info.
One thing that's probably a misconception among foreigners, is that love hotels are just big orgy/free-for-all shops. Couldn't be further from the truth. Nowadays, many places are very careful in how they run their business. At least outwardly, they are trying to keep a good reputation and try to downplay the image that they are only in the sex business... |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:19 am Post subject: |
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JimDunlop2 wrote: |
Couldn't be further from the truth. Nowadays, many places are very careful in how they run their business. At least outwardly, they are trying to keep a good reputation and try to downplay the image that they are only in the sex business... |
Jim, what are you telling us? That love hotels are reputable, charitable places of business concerned with our welfare? Next thing you know they will start up food drives for the poor. |
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diva
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:40 am Post subject: |
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hmmmm....I need info about casual sex in Tokyo....hmmmm..I'll ask the TEFL website!!
Join us next week listeners, when Mr Dub goes on 'swingingjapan.com' to ask what is the best textbook for a 1st year high school class and much hilarity ensues. |
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mrjohndub

Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 198 Location: Saitama, Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Well, diva...you can join us if you like. Would you mind sending a pic first though?
Actually my question was practical. I'm having two female friends from the States visit me. They're on a shoestring budget, love to party, and I live pretty far away from the city's hotspots. They'll be here during the New Year's time period and are making plans pretty slowly. We'd ideally stay in a regular hotel after being out in Tokyo, but who knows if reservations are available by the time we get around to it. I was brainstorming ideas to satisfy the lack of planning and the need to go cheap.
But, we'll be sure to discuss TEFL while we're there. |
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diva
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: |
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well....if you think a middle-aged, obese and semi-alcoholic college teacher can add to the party, then I'll ask my wife if it's ok to join you.
To get back on topic..I would guess that if you quietly walk into one of the automated hotels in Tokyo and push the right buttons then you wouldn't have a problem. Even today I would imagine that hotel staff are more worried about your nationality than the size of your party. |
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Speed

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Shikoku Land
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:21 am Post subject: |
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JimDunlop2 wrote: |
Are you guys kidding me? Is that first-hand information? Or something that someone told you?
There are many more rules than that -- and if you fail to follow them, then it's little wonder that a number of love hotel refuse foreign clientelle. The following doesn't apply to ALL hotels, but definitely can be used as a general guide.
First off, trying to get in with two people of the same sex is a huge no-no. Not everywhere, but in many places.
Thirdly, as was mentioned, staying alone is a no-no too.
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I've gotta be getting close to having stayed in over a hundred love hotels by now! They're a bargain, can be very large and a lot of fun to stay in.
Like Paul said, this isn't the case for ALL the hotels but...
....I've seen male couples checking in three times already and a female couple checking in once.
....Also a few times I've checked-in to love hotels alone due them being the cheapest options of the area I was staying at, when I travel throughout Japan.
8 out of 10 times, the love hotels have the automated room picking panel and machines in the genkan (entrance to the room) to pay when you leave. Keeping face-to-face contact to pretty much nil.
There are staff in the building back out of view, but they rarely ever come out unless you call for them or they need to clean rooms.
They usually don't interfere with their clients business as long as they pay for the room and time that they use them for.
Your girly friends from the US will be fine mrjondub.
Tell us how you get on. |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Sagamihara
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: |
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many in Tokyo aren`t clean.
Those ones probably cost less.
If you want cheap, around Ikebukuro or S h i t amachi (Ueno) are. |
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Big John Stud
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 513
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:27 am Post subject: |
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[quote="JimDunlop2"][First off, trying to get in with two people of the same sex is a huge no-no. Not everywhere, but in many places.
Okay JimDunlop2 does admit not everywhere. Also he does give good infor. I don't know much about love hotels. But I do know when two friends from the U.K. came to Japan for the first time they stayed at one the night before meeting up with me. They are not gay, they just wanted a cheap place to sleep until morning.
I laughed so hard when they told me where they stayed. They had wondered why some guy with an overweight woman was acting strange when they got into the lift. |
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Big John Stud
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 513
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Speed wrote: |
[....Also a few times I've checked-in to love hotels alone due them being the cheapest options of the area I was staying at, when I travel throughout Japan. |
Hello speed! You really stayed a few times alone at a love hotel? I ask because you are right they are so cheap if you check in late. A Japanese friend very familar with love hotels told me they let people check in alone because they are afraid the person is going to call a prostitute. |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Well, let me put it this way. Recently a friend of mine told me a very funny story about the love hotel thing...
He was busy partying in Tokyo with his buddy one night, and the hour got too late to take the train back home -- so being close to one of Tokyo's love hotel districts (Shinjuku or Shibuya -- not sure which one it was) they tried to find a place to stay. Hotel after hotel refused to let them in (as they were two guys)... Finally, walking along the street during the wee hours they came across a lesbian couple who were having the same problem. So they started chatting, and quickly realized the obvious solution was to both walk into the same hotel as 2 hetero couples, and once inside... trade partners! Apparently it worked a treat. No one said anything or was none the wiser. Although somehow I think that the lesbian couple had a more enjoyable stay than my friend and his buddy.
Gordon: You seem to have missed my point. Did I say that love hotels were legitimate businesses? No. I said:
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At least outwardly, they are trying to keep a good reputation and try to downplay the image that they are only in the sex business... |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Oh yeah.. And I can tell you first-hand about the checking-in-alone thing. Once my wife and I were looking for a place, so we spotted one. To save time and trouble, I dropped her off at the corner with the overnight bags and drve away to park the car for the night. 10 minutes later, I show up and my wife is standing in front of the love hotel looking quite distraught.
"I don't think they allow foreigners," she said.
"Why not?" I asked.
"Well, I tried to get us a room and the woman at the counter started yelling at me and telling me to leave." The intention was obvious, but not being able to understand sufficient Japanese, my wife had no idea WHY she was being asked to go.
I chuckled and explained to my wife that it was likely nothing to do with the colour of her skin and shape of her eyes as it was the fact that she was trying to go in alone.
Sure enough, as soon as the obaasan spotted me, she coughed up a room key and we were set for the night. |
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