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cliveloughlin
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 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: Trusted Recruiters in China |
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Hi All
Just a very quick question - has anyone used a really good, trustworthy recruitment agency in China?? I have been receiving emails from SO many but I'm unsure as to who is actually genuine....especially as so many of them use hotmail/yahoo email addresses!
Any names/contact details of GOOD recruiters would be VERY welcome.
Best
Clive
PS - I have been approached by Elite ESL and New Times International - they both sound too good to be true - any views about them??[/b] |
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clark.w.griswald
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My recommendations would be:
New Times International
Buckland Group
The China Teaching Network
One World Development Corporation
No promises that you will find everything to be perfect with these companies but I think that you can be safe in the knowledge that you won't be ripped off and will be provided with a level of service. Of course not everyone will agree on this, but I haven't yet seen any evidence that would make me change my views.
Whoever you choose, make sure that you do an appropriate level of research about them on the net and also be sure to ask them for contact details for past and present teachers.
As always, you don't really need a recruiter as there are plenty of opportunities to contact schools directly, but there are some benefits to dealing through a recruiter. |
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Yu
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| I would not be so worried about a hotmail or yahoo mail address. Many people use these here. |
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Voldermort
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The only good service I have had from a recruiter is from New Times International located in Shijiazhuang. I have worked few a through so called job placement agencies in China, and it was a total nightmare.
With New Times you can expect a fairly decent level of service, but the best part is they will always cover your back when and if things start going sour.
The two I would avoid at all costs are Jilin international and Simon language club, both located in Changchun. You would be signing away your own life if ever you decided to work through one of these sheep farms. |
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chengdude
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| I would not be so worried about a hotmail or yahoo mail address. Many people use these here. |
True, but as every Chinese student is fond of saying/writing, "Every coin has two sides." I'm patiently working through the second term of a contract that was arranged by a very unscrupulous recruiter based in Beijing. His agency uses Yahoo.com.cn e-mail addresses to their full, disposable potential. I have seen upwards of 20 identified by several of his placements/vicitims in their online gripes and I'm sure plenty more have been used as far back as you care to look. I haven't perused the job sites recently, so I can't say if this pattern continues to the day or if they've adjusted strategies.
The real key, for me, is to identify job postings with very similar descriptions of working conditions & benefits. Salaries are usually adjusted in these types of ads, but the rest of the conditions are suspiciously similar. Descriptions of the school are often vague as well. Guaranteed if you identify a serial poster of these types of ads, they will be using disposable e-mail addresses (Yahoo, et al) with a range of user ID's. And guaranteed if you fall in with an agency like this, their No. 1 priority will be the fee they can extract from the school for placing you, not providing any meaningful, detailed, and/or truthful information about the actual conditions...because in almost all cases, they really don't know or care. |
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Sinobear
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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For the same amount of time and trouble, YOU can be your own recruiter. Research where you want to go, what type of students you want to teach, what terms and conditions you want (or are willing to accept) and find a school that matches your criteria.
These posts ALWAYS end up being a non-paid advertisement from people with business dealings with recruiters. Imagine finding yourself placed at a school where you're being paid 3.5K a month via a recruiter, when someone else is getting 8K a month because they negotiated the position themselves.
Good luck! |
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7969
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Just a very quick question - has anyone used a really good, trustworthy recruitment agency in China?? I have been receiving emails from SO many but I'm unsure as to who is actually genuine....especially as so many of them use hotmail/yahoo email addresses! |
if i was writing to the pakistani secretary of state for a job and his email was [email protected], then i'd be suspicious. but here in asia, many businesses and independent consultants seem to use yahoo or hotmail freely for official email.
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cliveloughlin
Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: Recruiters - Thanks |
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Hi again
Thanks so much for your posts - I have been approached by New Times Int'l and think that I will see what they have to offer.
Also, I will try to find a post for myself with a college/Uni in my chosen areas - maybe ShenZhen, BeiJing or somewhere close to these 2 (e.g. TianJin/GuangZhou/Shijiazhuang).
If anyone has any ideas on who I should contact with an | |
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