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Konstansis · Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 13

I see that most of the jobs on the china job board require a degree AND TEFL/TESOL/CELTA etc. Is this the way things are going now? People need a degree AND certificate in teaching english? I just discovered that my Bsc Psychology degree isn't worth the paper its printed on and that's pissed me off enough. Now i have to get a bloody TEFL or CELTA too?!

NateM · Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 358

A lot of places say they "require" TESOL, and even 1 year teaching experience, but generally I think that is more "preference" than "requirement".

ytange · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:04 am Post subject:

I have 2 firm offers in Guangzhou but I have only got a 2 year college diploma.

Just dont feed em b/s

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=34374

Spiderman Too · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:27 am Post subject:

brsmith15 · Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 1142 Location: New Hampshire USA

I think that's only for unis. Private schools will often take anyone as long as they have a white face.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

Spiderman Too · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject:

tofuman · Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 937

Many bachelor's degrees are more or less worthless when entering the job market. Psychology, history, biology, and a host of others. They are degrees that prepare one for advanced study which, upon completion, can lead to very lucrative professional careers. A Psy.D degree or even a clinical master's degree in social work can offer some excellent job opportunities. A B.S. in psychology will land you a hourly wage job in a group home.

What were you thinking when you went for a B.S. in psych? Did you look at employment opportunities with a degee like that before completing it? Many bachelor's degrees are simply entry level training opportunities. Psych is one of them.

Teach for a couple of years and then get your doctorate. You, too, can become like talkdoc.

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

WordUp · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 131

My boss here just showed me a government document that illustrates substancial fines for schools that host unqualified teachers. It then goes into Z visa requirements.. I think the days of working in China without a degree are over.

vikdk · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676

so what - the school will just employ F visa teachers and not register them - get real this is China they probally even have bureau and related laws for nose picking Laughing

tofuman · Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 937

Kon,

Do not think your degree in psych is worthless. Particularly if you took courses in criminal psychology dealing with sociopathic mentality, your degree could be very helpful in understanding the administration and especially the FAO of the school that evenually hires you. It might even help you avoid being cheated out of money in the form of salary, travel reimbursement, and so forth.

It might also help you in your work with the students.

Good luck!

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

Please understand that SAFEA's RULES have the full force and effect of recommendations, that is all.

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

vikdk · Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 1676

wow Rog you so niave as to think I ment the so-called legal kind Laughing

Anyways half the PSB probally have false degrees - I know one policeman who does (a brother of a friend) - so folks don't sweat about degrees and Z's - concentrate on worrying about empolyers who don't fulfill contract obligations, and if you can actually hack it being a good teacher - now these are the real problem Laughing