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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 353 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: 'Whale of a time' |
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There is a lot of press here regarding Japan's (now failed) attempt to re-intoduce commercial whaling.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=72873
There has been at least one newspaper article here, by a Japanese, saying that there is virtually no coverage in Japan. Is this true? |
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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 353 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Obviously it is! |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: Re: 'Whale of a time' |
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king kakipi wrote: |
There is a lot of press here regarding Japan's (now failed) attempt to re-intoduce commercial whaling.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=72873
There has been at least one newspaper article here, by a Japanese, saying that there is virtually no coverage in Japan. Is this true? |
Do you honestly expect the Japanese media to print anything other than the government line?
Japanese already know that other countries are against whaling here and that its only a small powerful interest group that wants to keep its industry alive, just like rice farmers. There are jobs here at stake, after all. |
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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 353 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Do you honestly expect the Japanese media to print anything other than the government line |
Just asking
Didn't realise the Japanese media was so tightly controlled. Maybe it has more in common with its North Korean neighbours than I thought.......
And wouldn't the 'govt line' be "look at these bludy (sic) gaijin telling us what to do?".......hence my original question! |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: |
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king kakipi wrote: |
Didn't realise the Japanese media was so tightly controlled. Maybe it has more in common with its North Korean neighbours than I thought.......
And wouldn't the 'govt line' be "look at these bludy (sic) gaijin telling us what to do?".......hence my original question! |
If you have been reading the papers you would realise its nothing but politics. japan needs the votes on the IWC to get the whaling ban overturned so they buy off small developing countries like Tonga and Madagascar to get their votes. Its not censorship like North Korea but the newspapers censor themselves and there is no in depth muckraking like you find in the New York Times.
The large newspapers in Japan (Yomiuri, Asahi, Mainichi) print whatever the government wants them to know through the 'kisha' press clubs. being kicked out of the kisha is the equivalent of being exiled to Siberia.
The government knows the IWC and anti-whaling lobbies are annoying so they just play dirty by paying off other small countries.
More from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_Japan |
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Like a Rolling Stone

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 872
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I tried whale a couple of times. I thought it was a bit rubbery, i said "Hey this whale is rubbery". The izakaya man said "Oh thank you very much"
BTW have you tried whale? |
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Reisender
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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king kakipi wrote: |
Didn't realise the Japanese media was so tightly controlled. Maybe it has more in common with its North Korean neighbours than I thought....... |
Actually, they might have more in common with Australia according to the latest index of press freedom from Reporters Without Borders.
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=11715
Australia ranks 41 with Japan just behind at 42. At least we give them a good hiding when it comes to the important stuff.
Like football. |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've tried whale. You can get it at the "hana no mai" izakaya chain. I didn't find it to be rubbery at all. It was very tender, softer even than marbled beef. |
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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 353 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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I've tried whale. You can get it at the "hana no mai" izakaya chain. I didn't find it to be rubbery at all. It was very tender, softer even than marbled beef |
Guess the big difference is that the cow wouldn't have taken up to 35 minutes to die........................................  |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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king kakipi wrote: |
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I've tried whale. You can get it at the "hana no mai" izakaya chain. I didn't find it to be rubbery at all. It was very tender, softer even than marbled beef |
Guess the big difference is that the cow wouldn't have taken up to 35 minutes to die........................................  |
yeah, but it's all going to the same place. YUUMMMM!  |
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Le Creature
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 40
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Stupid wanker |
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Like a Rolling Stone

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 872
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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ripslyme wrote: |
I've tried whale. You can get it at the "hana no mai" izakaya chain. I didn't find it to be rubbery at all. It was very tender, softer even than marbled beef. |
Oh yes, i think there are two kinds. One is like you had and the other is yellow and rubbery and an old obaasan bought it for me in an izaakaya. I told her I didn't like it and she got angry.  |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Like a Rolling Stone wrote: |
ripslyme wrote: |
I've tried whale. You can get it at the "hana no mai" izakaya chain. I didn't find it to be rubbery at all. It was very tender, softer even than marbled beef. |
Oh yes, i think there are two kinds. One is like you had and the other is yellow and rubbery and an old obaasan bought it for me in an izaakaya. I told her I didn't like it and she got angry.  |
Ah, I see. Interesting. I'll have to check it out. |
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womblingfree
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 826
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Like a Rolling Stone wrote: |
Hey, I tried whale a couple of times. I thought it was a bit rubbery, i said "Hey this whale is rubbery". The izakaya man said "Oh thank you very much"
BTW have you tried whale? |
Not only the best avatar but also the best joke!
I tried it at a yakitori place once, they had special 'whale bacon bits', didn't taste of anything much. Think I've also accidently bought it as sashimi from the supermarket. |
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casual
Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 105
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I saw some whale steaks in super tamade a few weeks ago.
Before that I thought you could only get whale from dodgy izakayas etc. |
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