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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Very true about Istanbul but you cannot compare being single as you are with being married with kids. |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| I wasn't. I was comparing with other single or cohabiting childless colleagues. |
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valley_girl

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 272 Location: Somewhere in Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: Re: ............ |
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| william wallace wrote: |
| As a single child I have no others to compare, however my cousin approximates a brother.He's a carpenter-So, Will, I would naturally be inclined to think of that as "working class",but without getting too picky, I'd toss him up a rung as he has, in my opinion, a surplus income.I believe he makes about 60,000 CDN a year AND 20,000 of that is paid "under the table". His wife, without anything beyond high school, worked her way up at Toronto Blue Jays organization( a sport team), and she does "special events" and pulls in about 70,000 a year.They both pay quite a few taxes and expenses, and give the impression that they are barely getting by.I was talking with a few lads from Cork recently, and asked them about the housing prices in Dublin(mentioned in my original posting), and they were saying that a house in a good part of Dublin is beyond middle class expectations.I have another cousin an hour outside of London, and he seems to be getting by as a banker on 100,000 pound a year.To me, they seem rather lofty for "middle-class/upper-middle-class",but to hear them talk... |
Being from CB, you're probably acquainted with the term 'poor-mouthing'...sounds like that's what those folks are doing. I never did understand poor-mouthing. For those not from CB, that would be people who make good money but are always claiming poverty.
I am definitely in the wrong 'profession'. It seems most Canadians are doing much better financially than I am!  |
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william wallace
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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valley_girl

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 272 Location: Somewhere in Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps when I complete my Master's degree, I'll be able to acquire a salary that will put me in the "middle-class".  |
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bennyr81
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Poland
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: |
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I didnt think that money had much to do with class! In england i have a feeling (no statistics to back me up though) that the working classes outstrip the average middleclasses economically. A plumber, electrician, carpenter will earn around 3-500 pounds a week after their apprentices...now think the same thing for the normal graduate 180-350 pounds.
From my own experiences i was always termed middle-class not by the money i had but how i spent it!
I think that a majority of people now entering TEFL will definately be middle-class, university educated, gauche-caviares not content with beaver-espana or magamuff! |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Carpenters don't earn anything like that kind of money. |
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Fishy
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 138
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| Joiners (carpenters) do make a fortune here now, they're up there with plumbers. There has been a shortage of both for a few years and anyone with a good reputation can earn loads. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Joiners (carpenters) do make a fortune here now, they're up there with plumbers. There has been a shortage of both for a few years and anyone with a good reputation can earn loads. |
No, a good carpenter can earn 150 pounds a day tops. |
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Calories
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 361 Location: Chinese Food Hell
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Apparently in Ontario "middle class" is around 50 thousand in a double income household, but that's according to my rents who make 3 to 4 times that and still complain about having no money. I wouldn't know since I never had a job in Canada. |
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Rin
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Doha
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Calories wrote: |
| Apparently in Ontario "middle class" is around 50 thousand in a double income household, but that's according to my rents who make 3 to 4 times that and still complain about having no money. I wouldn't know since I never had a job in Canada. |
That's probably 50 thousand after tax, and it depends on your standard of living. |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| No, a good carpenter can earn 150 pounds a day tops. |
So you mean 300 pounds a week isn't possible at this rate? Do carpenters have a one day work week? Gosh, Thrifty, that's better than tefling. |
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thrifty
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1665 Location: chip van
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Of course it is better than TEFLing. Remember the old adage:
A trade is worth as much as an estate. |
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william wallace
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2869 Location: in between
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: ....................... |
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sidjameson
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 629 Location: osaka
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, how much does a house cost in Toronto for Christmas sake? |
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