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endarkend
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 Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: Legit schools in Beijing offering RPF (residence permit) |
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Hello,
Can anyone recommend some legit schools in Beijing that offer residency sponsorship? I entered China on a Z-visa which my current school here in Xi'an used to get me the RPF; however, on Aug. 30th I'll be moving to Beijing and need to find a new school to sponsor me as a legal foreign resident. The problem is that these schools seem to be few and far between. I've sent my resume to a number of schools already, but none of them offer such sponsorship. According to what I've read here in the forums, I'll have 30 days to find a new job in Beijing after obtaining a stamped letter of release from my current employer. However, I'd rather not leave it to the last minute and risk being deported, so if anyone could recommend some schools that they know offer the RPF to their employees, that would be much appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
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HunanForeignGuy
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Location: Shanghai, PRC
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Legit schools in Beijing offering RPF (residence permit) |
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| endarkend wrote: |
Hello,
Can anyone recommend some legit schools in Beijing that offer residency sponsorship? I entered China on a Z-visa which my current school here in Xi'an used to get me the RPF; however, on Aug. 30th I'll be moving to Beijing and need to find a new school to sponsor me as a legal foreign resident. The problem is that these schools seem to be few and far between. I've sent my resume to a number of schools already, but none of them offer such sponsorship. According to what I've read here in the forums, I'll have 30 days to find a new job in Beijing after obtaining a stamped letter of release from my current employer. However, I'd rather not leave it to the last minute and risk being deported, so if anyone could recommend some schools that they know offer the RPF to their employees, that would be much appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
~EnDarkEnd |
Yes, you technically have thirty days to find a new job...but exceptions can be made to this rule and have been...and the most important thing for you to do is to register your new address in Beijing with the PSB.
I would worry a little bit less about the thirty days and a little bit more about finding a job but still everyone that I know who has gone to Beijing looking for a job has found one. |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: Legit schools in Beijing offering RPF (residence permit) |
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It surely must be easy to find that job in Beijing, but do all FTs there have their passports "stamped" with the right one  ...to support what they are doing there
OP, I am sorry I can't give you a lead there, however you take it up with your prospective employers either prior to your arival in Beijing or during your interviews at schools there. Then, if you are there, the info above by HunanForeignGuy might be of a good help too.  (calling the PSB in Beijing prior to your arrival there might help too)
Cheers and beers  |
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endarkend
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies -- HunanForeignGuy, I'll keep that in mind about registering with the PSB right away. Hopefully they're the understanding sort.
englishgibson -- Yeah, there are tons of job opportunities in Beijing, but like you said, the real challenge is finding a place that offers the residency sticker. I've been emailing an average of three places a day for the past couple weeks, and very few have anything to say when I ask about residency..
Another problem for me, is that I plan to take Mandarin classes at least 3 hours a day and will need time to study on top of that, so I don't want to work more than 15-20 hours/week. I guess if worst comes to worst, I can try the option of contacting a friend of a friend of a friend who can supposedly get me the residency renewal "no problem", and then I'd be free to take on tutoring jobs or whatever at my whim. This option seems a little bit shady, though -- anyone have experience using such 'agents'?
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| My guess is a lot of schools are still offering to get you your "Z visa" which shouldn't be. I mean, if you were coming from out of the country, you'd need to have a Z, then the school would change that over to your residence permit. You might clarify with schools you've contacted if, although they say Z visa, they mean the residence permit. |
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endarkend
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, when I ask about the sponsorship though, I'm pretty clear on what I mean -- asking about residency with (Z visa) in parentheses. If they offer one they offer the other by default. |
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chufeng
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: Residency |
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| What kind of schools are you contacting that AREN'T offering you a residency permit? That's illegal... |
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englishgibson
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: Legit schools in Beijing offering RPF (residence permit) |
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Illegal?  You sound like a newbie with all due respect.
Cheers and beers |
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cj750
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| What kind of schools are you contacting that AREN'T offering you a residency permit? That's illegal... |
chufeng, it is possible to open a school that does not have the authorization to hire or maintain FTs on their staff. Whether these schools can hire on a PT basis, legally, well it is up in the air..as I have had some authorities tell me that it ws ok to work part time for some schools because they have partial permission..where as others tell me it ain't so...recently I was offered a position that ran into 25 k USD per year to work at a university in Beijing for an English University...when I ask about the visa, they told me that as I was gonna be hired as a consultant..that an F visa would do...and that they would issue a letterhead document that may help get a year's F, but my information is that Americans are having a hard time getting a year's F. I got the impression that this interviewing fellow just didn't know much about the process, and I am not sure who does. I will likely go with a Chinese university proper because I value the RP for things like drivers licence and bike and tag ownership...even at less money the holidays of a proper institution is far better than the foreign university injected hybrids and work weeks can sometimes be shortened to three days instead of a 8 to 5 job... |
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chufeng
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Legit schools in Beijing offering RPF (residence permit) |
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| englishgibson wrote: |
Illegal? You sound like a newbie with all due respect.
Cheers and beers |
Yes, a lot of people work illegally on F visas, I know. But the OP obviously wants to work legally, on a Z visa, and I think it's fairly clear (as clear as Chinese laws can be) that it's not legal to work for a school FT on an F visa.
My question comes from the fact that I just completed my own job search, and in talking to 20+ schools and universities all over the country, only two tried to pull the "we can't get you a Z visa, but it's ok to work on an F visa" crap. I'm just wondering what kind of places he's applying to that he can't seem to find one that can give him an F visa.
Just out of curiously, endarkend, do you have a degree and some experience? Obviously that would create problems for getting a Z visa in Beijing, even if the schools were authorized to hire FTs. |
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endarkend
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chufeng: Yeah, I've got a BA in Sociolinguistics, but I'm a recent grad (Winter 2005) and have had about a year's worth of part-time ESL experience in the States, as well as 6 months full-time experience here in Xi'an. So less qualified than some, but more qualified than many others that come here. My current employer was able to get me a Z-visa, FEC and RPF no problem (even though it was only a 6-month contract), so I think the main reason I'm having troubles finding a legit place is because I'm only applying for part-time positions (less than 20 hours/week). So far I've only run across a couple that offer the RPF sponsorship for part-time work, but at least I know they're out there. I'd like to work legally, but if I can't find something that suits my needs, I might have to go with my friend of a friend who knows a 'visa agent' and can get me residency sponsorship without the need to work... which would allow me to focus on my Mandarin studies while tutoring part-time on my own terms.
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tw
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| endarkend wrote: |
| My current employer was able to get me a Z-visa, FEC and RPF no problem (even though it was only a 6-month contract), so I think the main reason I'm having troubles finding a legit place is because I'm only applying for part-time positions (less than 20 hours/week). |
Teaching less than 20 hours a week doesn't automatically mean you are working part-time. Many, many FT's teach anywhere from 12 to 18 hours a week with a RPF and FEC. Are you looking for a six-month contract only? That could be your obstacle because more and more employers prefer a 12-month commitment. |
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endarkend
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| That's good to hear, 'cause I'm really looking to teach around 15 hours/week max. As for 6 vs. 12 month contract -- so far the topic hasn't come up with the schools I've been in touch with, so I'm not sure if it could be the reason but I'll keep that in mind. |
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