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gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, my orginal point seems to be lost; how many illegal immigrants are going to be in a club?

I would opine probably none unless they are working there, so in that case just card the staff Rolling Eyes .
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king kakipi



Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Translation: Shuize points out how silly, naive and illogical you are being in this thread. Really, there are just so many instances.


None of which you refer to. "Silly"; if you're going to raid a club frequented by foreigners, take an interpreter.
If you're learning English at school; LISTEN. If you aspire to be a salaryman you may have to deal with English speakers. Or do policemen realise at elementary school that they will never reach the dizzy heights of becoming a salaryman, and instead perfect their bicycle-riding skills in preperation for chasing gaijin?
"Naive". In a country where English is THE 2nd language, might be a good idea to learn a smattering.
"Illogical"; how so?

Canuck, you've been in Japan too long methinks.Take a step back and see the absurdity of conducting a raid and not have the nouse to take along an interpreter to try and achieve a quicker, but more thorough result without further antagonising 'guests' in the country you call home.....
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

king kakipi wrote:
None of which you refer to. "Silly"; if you're going to raid a club frequented by foreigners, take an interpreter.


The police did! Re-read the OP!

Quote:
In a country where English is THE 2nd language, might be a good idea to learn a smattering.
"Illogical"; how so?



This is a false statement. English is NOT the second language of Japan.

There is only one official language of Japan: Japanese!
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Chris21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 366
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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king kakipi wrote: If you aspire to be a salaryman you may have to deal with English speakers. Or do policemen realise at elementary school that they will never reach the dizzy heights of becoming a salaryman


What? What percentage of salarymen do you think need English for work?
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, he's naive.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to kick a dead dog, but at what point were people not allowed to exit the premises? You said it was highly unorganized and I was just wondering if people were bailing when they saw what was going down.

Enjoy,
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Mike L.



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP wrote:

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Bearing this general lack of thoroughness in a country that seems very concerned about correct procedure for virtually everything, it's questionable what the real purpose of putting people through these procedures was.


This shows that they weren't too keen on this withchunt and were probably proded into it by some local big wigs..

Good news when you've lost your gaijin card!! I know from experience...

Anyways, if not for English conversation, and, or displaying mutli-cultural tendencies, the Japanese police certainl yare good for dirrections.

They also have a wonderful minshuku room reservation service when you rollinto a small town after city hall is closed..

If it makes you feel any better, the local police around here are always getting into criminal trouble themselves or flouting traffic regulations all the while not really enforcing the law..

But they don't bother gaijin!
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Mtnkiwi



Joined: 27 Mar 2004
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Location: Osaka

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furious..., English is the Official second language of Japan. I don't think this makes any difference in the argument, but is worth noting.
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mtnkiwi wrote:
Furious..., English is the Official second language of Japan. I don't think this makes any difference in the argument, but is worth noting.


There is no second official language. There's just Japanese.

http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/indepth/about/overview/index.html

the article wrote:
There is only one official language spoken in Japan, which is of course Japanese. However, many Japanese are able to understand English to a certain extent since English is the foreign language that everyone must learn as part of compulsory education.


Here's an article, although dated, proposing English as a second official language:

http://www3.plala.or.jp/mig/english-uk.html

If you have some more information, I would like to see it. I asked a few Japanese people and they didn't think there was a second official language.
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:05 am