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organix



Joined: 18 Jun 2004
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Location: Shenzhen, China

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Unreasonable Request from Student Reply with quote

I have a former student from last year who recently asked me to fill in TEN evaluation forms for her applications to American universities. I was unable to make a lunch date so she dropped off a huge package on my desk with instructions for completing the evaluations. I haven't seen her in months. I would have no problem if it was just one form, but each form is several pages long and requires answering a series of questions. This would take hours and hours of work.

This girl is brilliant and I have no doubt she will make it into one of her chosen universities, but it just seems unreasonable to ask this of me. She is a "special" student who mainly works at home on her own. She does not attend classes with the rest of her "classmates". While she frequently came to my office to chat and use my desk to study for the SATs, she actually only sat in on ONE of my lessons. As such I feel it is unfair to put me in this position of evaluation. Now I know she is brilliant, but is this reasonable?

Her father is the secretary of the CCP for a small city in Guangdong and they once treated me to dinner and gave me a few small gifts mainly some art books, perhaps as a precursor to this request. I've already written her a letter of recommendation for a summer camp in America (to which she was accepted)

But what do you think I should do about this request?

Thanks.
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NathanRahl



Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This girl is a user, I have seen it a million times before, brush her off and have no further contact with her, she only feigns friendship because you serve a purpose, nothing more.
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laska



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she is really special, it would be best to bite the bullet and fill out the recs for her. Are you sure it would take hours? Can you write one standard rec letter to use for all ten forms? Others please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's what is usually done in this type of situation. I understand you'll have to fill in the bubbles individually on the forms, no getting around that.

By helping her you'll be helping along a brilliant student towards a bright future. If you stay in touch with her, you'll have a friend for life. And she will ceftainly be in a position to return the favor someday.
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Tessio



Joined: 31 May 2005
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Location: In a New York state of mind.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Nathan, but if you like the girl and want to help, go ahead and fill out the forms.

2 former students of mine are now in the UK and Australia. I'm going to work on a 3rd recommendation letter today. But, I don't think this one will be accepted.

I'm here for the people.
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NathanRahl



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with laska,

The girl has to hands and working opposable thumbs I am assuming?

If you give her what she wants, she will just wontinue under the dilusion that being special gives her some exalted position in society, and that she can and likely should get more consideration and help then others. This is of course BS, better she find it out now then later, that she's no better then anyone else, and if she doesn't learn to pull her own weight, she's gonna have a hard time in life. Take care.
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dajiang



Joined: 13 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely with Nathan on this one.

She's a student right? and a brilliant one at that. So it should really be no problem for her to do this little thing for her own sake.

And just to drop a whole stack of it on your desk is really too much. It's the way to ask and say please eh. So nah, dont bother. say youre busy with work, and you could show her how to do one for instance (let her fill it in), but that's it.

Teaching someone self-responsibility, politeness, and what's acceptable to ask of someone, is just as important as teaching someone English.

Dajiang
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Dear OP........ Reply with quote

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Tessio



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm alone, again.

Help.

Republican Paul.

So much for the Democrats out there.


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cj750



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this form seems to me to be a great bargaining chip....
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Shan-Shan



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I have a former student from last year who recently asked me to fill in TEN evaluation forms for her applications to American universities


There is no favour being done here: you are simply aiding her in deceiving ten different universities. If she is so "brilliant", her "brilliance" should naturally shine on the applications she writes herself.

Do not allow yourself to be duped, especially by a pseudo student who only uses you for your En