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Doctor on a Helicopter
Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Primrose Hill
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| Average for a backpacker less than 20 ytl an hour. Average for someone with experience and the right bits of paper about 2000-2500 dollars. |
Excuse me, but where do you get that sort of money in Turkey? As far as I know, most teachers with qualifications get an average hourly rate of between 14 YTL and 20 YTL in language schools in Istanbul to name a few English Time, Interlang, Dilko, British English. If you calculate the average classroom hours as 120 in a month as most experienced teachers will probably agree that above 120, the quality will suffer because you are actually teaching not working at MacDonalds, then your full-time salary will be between 1.680 YTL and 2.400 YTL rough equivalent to $1.120 and $1.600. |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I was getting 2600 for doing 16 hrs/week last year,and I've been offered part time work at 35 ytl/hr recently. It's there if you look. |
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Doctor on a Helicopter
Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Primrose Hill
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| I was getting 2600 for doing 16 hrs/week last year,and I've been offered part time work at 35 ytl/hr recently. It's there if you look. |
What exactly have you been offered 35 ytl/hour for doing? |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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teaching
(Baba Alex, no comment please until I buy matches) |
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tvik
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 371 Location: here
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| universities and high schools pay more |
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almuze
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 125
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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salaries: I think k-12 schools pay more than dershanes, generally speaking. I think the secert to finding a good salary here is knowing a lot of people, which basically just comes with time. So, if you a fresh-off-the boat yabanci (even with a lot of experience) you may not be offered the same salary as someone who knows all the right people.
This said, I agree with Yaramaz, good paying jobs are here to be found, if you look around and negotiate well.
rent: we also have rent inflation issues, we have no signed contract (a subject of hot debate here at our house, but this would be a different post) We have asked 4 different, unrelated lawyers, they all say - It is the landlords fault he didn't have you sign a contract. If you want to be polite, pay a rent increase the rate of inflation (there is a real law about this, every so often they cover it on the news) But, since you have no contract, you can pay whatever you want (ie - nothing, even) It will take the landlord years (2-ish) to drag you through the courts and in the end the courts will find in your favour, since landlord gave you no contract at the beginning,
This said, the "pay nothing and wait for trail" is not a recommeded course of action, and obviously not an opition at all unless your Turkish is good enough to handle the court system.
I would settle for the "pay what you want/about the rate of inflation" and Landlord will make many pestering phone calls which should eventually taper off. We paid ours just slightly above the inflation rate, he accepted, now we get another 12 mths until the circus begins again. good luck |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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K-12s do pay more, but the flipside is that, well, you have to teach k-12. I did that for two years and when I moved on to a dershane I couldn't believe how easy it was to teach, how lovelythe students were to work with, how much I actually improved as a teacher because I wasn't spending 2/3 of my tme on discipline... There is a reason why kolejs pay you more.
The universities, for me, were a bit easier to deal with than the k-12s, but still you are dealing with 20-25 cooped-up rich kids in a room, with attitude and lethargy to spare. I was lucky in my second term last year because I had some amazing scholarship kids in my classes, but i still wasn't worth the negligible pay rise from derhane land.
For higher pay, there are a number of smaller outfits, no names mentioned- you go find them yourself- which pay 30-45 ytl/hour. I know several people working for such places. They aren't the backpacker joints. I also did some evening work at Bilgi Egitim, which is the university's adult learning annex, and they offered 45ytl/hour.
Or go private, and charge whatever you fancy. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| yaramaz wrote: |
| I was getting 2600 for doing 16 hrs/week last year,and I've been offered part time work at 35 ytl/hr recently. It's there if you look. |
35 an hour? sounds suspiciously like the B-side  |
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yaramaz

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, no, but it is in Besiktas...
(Are the Bs hiring these days?) |
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dmb

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told last weekend they are still looking. new classes`beginning in the new year. |
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yaramaz

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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanks, love. Do they still want DELTA folk or can piddly folk apply too? |
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dmb

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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| I think they pay 35 for piddly folk and 40 for DELTA/MA folk. |
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yaramaz

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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Probably, but I really didn't want to stay long enough to get it. I'll probably do my masters instead anyway. |
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scb222
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 175 Location: Brisvegas, Oz
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| Average for a backpacker less than 20 ytl an hour. Average for someone with experience and the right bits of paper about 2000-2500 dollars. |
but where are these jobs you talk about? |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| dmb wrote: |
| Average for a backpacker less than 20 ytl an hour. Average for someone with experience and the right bits of paper about 2000-2500 dollars. |
but where are these jobs you talk about? |
let me know your experience and qualifications and I wll gladly set you off in the right direction.
I get alot of pms from people along the lines of I have a degree, CELTA, 2 years experience in Korea... Can i get a higher paid job in Turkey?
NO do the time and the crime, make contacts, pay to get better qualified
blah blah..... no such thing as a free lunch |
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