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Henry_Cowell



Joined: 27 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
One agrees with this.

Dr_Zoidberg wrote:
When ghost says ghost it is referring to itself. When ghost says one it is referring to any person.

Nobody starts a conversation with one except Queen Elizabeth II and ghost. In the quoted sentence, one does not refer to "any person." Wink
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh Henry melting again Smile ...nobody melts better than him ... only Henry knows Queen Elizabeth, and how to start a conversation on those forums...mind you, he is full of experiences in Taiwan Wink

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cheers and beers to Henry's experience Very Happy
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My shadow again... Shocked

Evidently non-English gibson doesn't know that the queen never refers to herself as I in public. She typically uses one (or we) in public conversation.

Non-English gibson should ask himself why he doesn't know this -- and thus why he bothered to leap on my post without first understanding it. Was it the Pavlovian instinct?

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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and herny coward knows little about sarcasm since his religion apparently prohibits him from even thinking in such a way Laughing
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My shadow again... Shocked
not shadow, but a smell of your pathetic forums ego Wink
so, has the queen ever imprisoned you for your pathetic sins Confused
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public conversation
Surprised you actually know those two words
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Non-English gibson
do you really know my family background Confused ... speaking of yours, a little bird told me that you were English ... Manchester area Smile ...my last's Gibson, what's yours coward???

Now back to the topic of this thread, what would Henry know about the rights in Taiwan, since he's never been there (though he is familiar with the rights and lefts in England Smile )

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cheers and beers to all hard working FTs Very Happy
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Englishgibson I am not sure what exactly has brought you over here to the Taiwan forum, but could you please leave the negativity that you express on the China forum back there.

The Taiwan forum is a relatively happy place to post and most questions get answered in a civil manner. I hope that we can keep the forum civil.

Perhaps if you have a problem with Henry then you can take that up with him privately by PM as it really is not of interest to the rest of us.

No offence intended here. I just hope that if you are going to start posting on the Taiwan forum that you give the respect to others that they no doubt deserve.

Thanks.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clark,

with christmas coming, i was wondering if you could give me some tips on christmas lights Idea ...saw your display a few years back, pretty nice, i'm just worried that i might black out taiwan... Laughing

ganbei!
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

englishgibson wrote:
and herny coward knows little about sarcasm since his religion apparently prohibits him from even thinking in such a way Laughing

...a little bird told me that you were English ... Manchester area ...

The Czinglish-speaking gibson reveals himself (once again) as anti-Semitic. And he and his "little bird" can't even read these forums correctly enough to know that I am American and, when in that country, spend most of my time in northern California.

Poor reading skills + trust in little birds + central-European provincialism = stuck teaching "English" in China

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Clark, I should be flattered to have this little shadow following me from thread to thread and forum to forum. Alas, I am not. Rolling Eyes
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SanChong



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Taiwan forum is a relatively happy place to post and most questions get answered in a civil manner. I hope that we can keep the forum civil.


I'd second Clark's suggestion. The Taiwan forum wasn't always such a happy place. Over the past year+, we've done a good job of keeping this place civilized and mostly devoid of personal attacks...

Let's try and keep it this way!! Smile
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Toe Save



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
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Location: 'tween the pipes.........

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SanChong wrote:
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The Taiwan forum is a relatively happy place to post and most questions get answered in a civil manner. I hope that we can keep the forum civil.


I'd second Clark's suggestion. The Taiwan forum wasn't always such a happy place. Over the past year+, we've done a good job of keeping this place civilized and mostly devoid of personal attacks...

Let's try and keep it this way!! Smile


I must say it was pretty weird to see that exchange. Not something I am used to since I began wading in these (other) waters. Surely they 'mosa* thought they were somewhere else. Wink Wink



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Let's try and keep it this way!! Smile



YEAH!!!!!

Oh wait. Does that mean I have to take my valium before posting? Should we start a poll? Wink Wink







*If you don't get my joke, vocalize the sentence. Yeesh. Then again, you may never get it. You'd have to be a serious vet of these boards and the wars that can ensue on them to truly get my jist. For those who don't quite get what I mean, don't worry. It ain't no thang. Just want you to know that I know how to spell. When I write " 'mosa", I mean " 'mosa". Wink Wink
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toe Save wrote:
Oh wait. Does that mean I have to take my valium before posting? Should we start a poll? Wink Wink


Valium, Diazepam, T-Quil or Valrelease are recognized medical agents that are acceptable for consumption before posting. Twisted Evil Wink

BTW, LOVE the new sig. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Czinglish-speaking gibson reveals himself (once again)
unlike some flamers with "interesting" user names that hide themselves behind computers and that get involved in forums discussions on topics that they know little about Wink
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stuck teaching "English" in China
better than stuck reading those Chinese forums only and trying to provide a "friendly" advice or is it "advise" Herny Confused Smile
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Englishgibson I am not sure what exactly has brought you over here to the Taiwan forum
THE RIGHTS...what's brought you in?
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could you please leave the negativity that you express
have you never been "negative" on forums and discussions on topics you know little about ... anyway, i'll try...but could you PLEASE share your experience from Taiwan or mainland China with all of us Smile
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The Taiwan forum is a relatively happy place
i see ...and you are a relatively "happy" person too Wink ..Clark, thanx for enlightening me

Peace to Taiwan forums
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cheers and beers to our knowledge and experiences around the world Very Happy
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, the only rights we as a minority on Taiwan have is the right to do as we are told or leave so long as your papers are in order.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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BigWally



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle wrote:
The more things change the more they stay the same.


Truer words never spoken...applicable to this message board, and Aristotle's posts! Wink
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you don't believe me call the Council of Labor affairs and ask them yourself what rights you have under the toothless and widely ignored labor laws of the Republic of China.
They will inform that if you intend to make a complaint that you must abide by the terms of your contract as dictated by your employer. Once you sign a contract you have no rights as prescribed under the labor laws of the Republic of China.
That is of course a fallacy that the CLA likes to hide behind to avoid getting involved and doing the job.
Unfortunately there are few others on Taiwan capable of advocating for you, hire a lawyer for 150,000 retainer or find someone who knows how to work the system.
Good luck!
A.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual Aristotle's posts are a wealth of misinformation.

Aristotle wrote:
They will inform that if you intend to make a complaint that you must abide by the terms of your contract as dictated by your employer.


If your employer has acted illegally or you are in a dangerous position then you cannot be required to continue to work and the CLA would not do this if you took the time to explain the situation to them.

If you are having a disagreement with your employer about the terms of your work then of course you are required to keep working until the matter is resolved. Would you support the reverse situation where the employer could just choose not to pay you until the dispute was resolved? Of course not.

Aristotle wrote:
Once you sign a contract you have no rights as prescribed under the labor laws of the Republic of China.


That's just silly.

Aristotle wrote:
Unfortunately there are few others on Taiwan capable of advocating for you, hire a lawyer for 150,000 retainer or find someone who knows how to work the system.


As has been discussed here before there are many alternatives to hiring a lawyer and I wouldn't recommend hiring a lawyer in almost all cases of disputes with employers. You can do it yourself for free why pay anyone else?
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