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Best looking (scenery) locales to teach in?
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dajiang



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Location: Guilin!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I heard Buckland the school in Yangshuo has gone bankrupt some time ago. (not talking about the recruiter though, plenty of info on him elsewhere)
Anyway that school wasn't a very nice place to work at from what I've gathered from most people I know that tried it.

Other yanghuo schools will offer about 2500 to 3000 for 25 hours a week. not bad really if youre looking for a free holiday. i know some signs do promise 4000 a month, but i havent met anyone that actually got that. for summer schools it might be different btw.

Guilin has got some good places to work at though, but salaries wont be high. hours are such that you can get other gigs in evenings and weekends though, and if its scenery you want, its what youll find here.

sichuan province is great btw. chengdu is beautiful and you can get away easily to some really cool places. (dont go to panzihua though)
also hunan is a great place for those who are more inclined to take the off beaten paths.

just go somewhere, and if you like it, find a job and stay. its that easy.
Good luck.

Dajiang
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm down guys. Roger can't be wrong!
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Steppenwolf



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dajiang wrote:
Last I heard Buckland the school in Yangshuo has gone bankrupt some time ago. (not talking about the recruiter though, plenty of info on him elsewhere)
Anyway that school wasn't a very nice place to work at from what I've gathered from most people I know that tried it.


[/u][/b]Ri-d.ick-ewless[ claim from the grapevine!
Buckland is neither "bankrupt" nor out of business; anyone can take a walk along the secondary road to Yulong River and see the stately Buckland premises opposite the courthouse.

Their Chengzhong Lu branch did falter but that was an antiquated and uninviting school building on the opposite side of Yangshuo.

Also their reputation is solid and good!
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eslstudies



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steppenwolf wrote:

Buckland is neither "bankrupt" nor out of business;

Also their reputation is solid and good!


Absolutely, as their current website reveals.
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100 Full Time Native English Teachers Wanted in February and August 2007, 5 or 11 months contract are accepted. Apply Now!

We are looking for native English speakers, preferably from USA, Canada, UK, Australia, Ireland, and New Zealand. No other qualifications are necessary,

So, white, warm and vertical it is. I'm sure Clark would have something to add on this.
The site also says Yangshuo, where unqualified white drifters are a dime a dozen, pays 40-60Y an hour. A twenty hour week would bring in 3.2-4.8 K [no, not "kuai"] a month. With housing, and even given Yangshuo prices -you could always avoid Xi Jie, btw- the upper figure would be quite liveable.
Owen, Johnny, Roger. The Yangshuo triad.
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btkong



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose I could, as some people have suggested, work in Korea and save up some serious cash then do a nice long tour of China. My friend is in Korea teaching, and he makes 7k (USD) every 1.5 months. The only downside is that Korea is very boring (from what I've heard).

I suppose that saving 20-30k USD in Korea is a reality. Having 30k USD after a year (as opposed to saving 5-10k by counting nickles and dimes (or whatever the chinese equivelent is) could result in a very nice tour of China's beautiful scenic areas. I imagine, with the wages you earn in China, you probably don't have alot of cash to do a scenic tour of china, especially if you want to save anything at all.

And I'm still not sure how much time I would have to travel the nice landscapes if I taught in Shanghai, since the nice places are all quite far in the southwestern provinces.

Teaching in Gulin , Yangshuo, or Chengdu is also a possibility, though I will be much much poorer.
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mlomker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btkong wrote:
I suppose I could, as some people have suggested, work in Korea and save up some serious cash then do a nice long tour of China.


Having some money in the bank is always a fine idea...if an employer is a problem then you can always leave. Some employers bank upon the fact that their teachers live hand-to-mouth and can be abused.

You could work a year in Korea, spend the Summer touring, and then take a job somewhere in the Fall. I've talked to guys that work a year in Korea and then bum around Thailand for a year on the savings. Smile
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dajiang wrote:
dont go to panzihua though

What's wrong with Panzhihua? Have you ever been here or are you quoting the 'lonely planet'?
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jammish



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even xi jie prices are really cheap compared to western bars/restaurants in most major chinese cities...
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ChineseChris



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volermort wrote 'Whats wrong with Panzhihua"
Probably seen the writings on Dave's about the negative No 3 school there.
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChineseChris wrote:
Probably seen the writings on Dave's about the negative No 3 school there.


Considering that is my base of employment, I will let you know soon enough if there is anything 'negative' about it.

I'm up for a contract renewal soon and put it like this, if they ( he ) screw me over again then their reputation of having 'static' FT's goes with me.
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ChineseChris



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panzhihua - Voldermort
Recently I had a long an enjoyable catchup meal with some long term friends of mine who have been FT's in China since the 90's. The stories they have told me about your beloved Panzhihua and your No 3 school leave a lot to be desired. Obviously you are unaware of some of the rorts that are going on there. The Chinadian chap who has a past longer than your arms and has finally wound his way to Panzhihua via many other Sichuan cities is obviously still causing havoc!!! My friends were lucky enough to be warned off by friends they have in the PSB gained after many years of dealing with the PSB all over the country, from what they said the Chinadian has now run foul of some of his local mentors and is now suffering the consequences.
Good luck with your negotiations with a new contract.
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Voldermort



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you can appreciate that there is very little I can say on the matter. I have already been warned about posting on these forums.

My contract is up for renewall soon, and to be honest, I really cannot see Chinadian chap giving me a fair deal. Infact I would go as far to say that the he will perform the same old routine of "you are a bad teacher", "the students don't like you", "the school can't afford what you ask"... This year though I am not going to stand for it.

In defence of the school itself, there is absolutely no problem. The headmasters, teachers and even the students have looked after me very well. Any problem, little or small, is solved in a matter of hours.

There is a fairly good chance I will be making a move to a larger city such as Chengdu this year.
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dajiang



Joined: 13 May 2004
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Location: Guilin!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

nice to know you're enjoying Panzihua voldermort. I didn't very much, and if i had a choice i'd go to pretty much any other city in Sichuan.

So if someone asks me about scenery, i'd recommend Sichuan, except for that place because it's just a bit drab and all stretched out along the river taking you ages to get around the place.

Anyway, good luck with the school situation. And what's that bit about having been warned not to write on this forum? Is it that guy to referred to?

Dajiang
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