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[The Noodles]

A simple google search will tell you a lot more than I can about the subject.

In brief, 1/3 of the Armenian population were wiped out by the Ottoman Turks in 1915. That's approximately 1.5 million dead men, women and children in what constituted as the first genocide of the 20th century.

A genocide that was so well covered up it was used as a model by Hitler when he was justifying the fate of the 6 million jews who eventually perish at his hands. He's remembered for famously said 'who remembers the Armenians?'

Although this atrocity was carried out by rulers of the past, pre Ataturk, the present day government refuses to acknowledge what happened.

This has caused a lot of tension and bitterness for both the remaining genocide survivors and the new generation of Armenians like myself.

[Queen of Sheba]

You commented on Iran as well as Turkey, so I though maybe you had some personal opinions as an Armenian on the topic. Yet perhaps you are too removed ancestally from the diaspora and the history to have an opinion. If I wanted a blanket google resonse, I know how to use google and wikipedia, and would not have asked you about it.

[The Noodles]

Ok My personal opinion.

I hold the Turkish government in very low esteem. I am several generations removed from the victims of the genocide but won't allow myself to to forget what happened to them. Should I ever have children, I'll teach them about it as well.

I feel Turkey Should take responsibility for its actions and it should educate i's people about its History so they can make sure that something like this never happens again.

Do I hate the present day Turks... That's a tough one. In my heart I know I shouldn't as it was not their hands which murdered so many people. But there ignorance to the truth does bother me.

I try to seperate the people from the government but also find myself feeling somewhat cold towards someone who tells me they are Turkish. I refuse to go to Turkish owned shops and boycott as many any Turkish products as I can. This in turn only make the gulf between us larger.

This isn't right but it's an uncontrolable emotion.

Anyway, I hope this answers your question more fully.

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[Cleopatra]

[The Noodles]

Hmm

I've only been in Jubail for a week and a bit. But I was living in Green Lanes for around four years. Actually Britain does boast a fair amount of products that are exported from Turkey.

To be fair I do the same with Isreali products. Nothing wrong with peaceful protest.

[Cleopatra]

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Looking, Listening and Decoding

Bush: Al Hakim, you're as clever as Khomeini and as smart as Nour Al maliki.

Al hakim: Bush, you are as stupid as Blair and as smart as Rice.

[Queen of Sheba]

Ahmedinejad: Bush you would taste good cubed, mixed with saffron and marinated in yogurt with some rice on the side.

Bush: Why you're a west Tehran boy, just like me!

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Ahmedinejad: Bush, why did you describe Iran as �axis of evil�, and you know very well that the great threat to world peace, according to the Guardian poll, is you Mr President?

Bush: Hey, Ahmedinejad, Gratifications to you from the White House. At last, a poll we are top of, justifying all our hard work and endeavourations to bring about world peace and prosperity by kicking out 'terrorists' wherever totalitarian and dictatroship exist . Pop will be mightly pleased. God bless you all. Pass the pretzels honey.

[Stephen Jones]

If you boycott Turks in Jubail you'll have a problem getting a good haircut.

On the subject of the Armenian Genocide it will be fun when Turkey joins the EU. France already has a law making it a criminal offence to deny the genocide, and Turkey has one making it a criminal offence to claim it happened, and both will want the law to apply throughout the EU.

[Cleopatra]

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