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rxfaith



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Riyadh Reply with quote

How hard is it to find a place to rent in Riyadh and what's the average rent per month?
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rent per month could range from sr 8,000 to sr 80,000.

very helpful, isn't it? well that's what you get when you don't tell us what size you want, and how upscale of a location you want. Cool
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rxfaith



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch...
alrighty, 2-3 bedroom, and decent. Not looking for anything special.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

Assuming the rents are similar to what they are in Jeddah (which is a good assumption), I would say SR. 17,000 to SR. 25,000 (completely bare) would net you a place in a decent area.

Those who have been in Riyadh feel free to correct me.
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rxfaith



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm confused. is this per month?
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MIKEBUCHAN



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: working inSA Reply with quote

rxfaith ---

Do you have a job offer in SA?

I believe almost all of your visa, housing and rent, dependants accompanying you, spouse getting a job there too, and most of the other questions you have been posting WILL have been answered IF you have a firm offer and are perparing to leave for the kingdom.

At least I think so!

Mike
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rxfaith



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info. We do have 1 potential offer with the option of either staying in their facilities or finding our own place and they give us a lump sum, so we were trying to see which was better.
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MIKEBUCHAN



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: bell Reply with quote

Would that be from Bell?
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i'm confused. is this per month?


We are talking about Riyadh, not Manhattan!!!!

And the place you have been offered, is it a compound attached to the place where you will be working, separate compound, what facilities are in it, is it fully firnished, what lump sum have you been offered in lieu...???

You have to tell us all these things if you want people to help you decide.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

AMEN trapezius!
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rxfaith



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the lack of info, I didn't think people would care to know every last detail.

No, the job offer was not from Bell Centres, it was from King Faisal School. My husband received an email Sunday night with somewhat of an offer however we haven't heard back from them as of yet so we're not sure if the offer still stands....
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoiu may want to try the search function to see what posters here have to say about King Faisal School. It has a reputation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoiu may want to try the search function to see what posters here have to say about King Faisal School. It has a reputation.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot, you forgot the quotes, or the italics:

It has a "reputation." OR It has a reputation.

Very Happy

Since the school is offering you fully furnished accomodation on a compound, that's way better than trying to rent your own place, and then having to furnsih it from sratch, and still not having access to pools, tennis courts, safe clean enclosed area to run, etc.

See this thread for a compound vs. apartment discussion:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=51671

This is my main detailed post in there:

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And that is exactly why it would be better to be in a compound, if you don't want your family to rot, that is. Your wife, your kids, can feely walk outside within the compound whenever they wish without worries of safety or people gawking at them. They can go to the pool, the store, the gym, whatever. Or take a walk at night around the compound, for fun, for exercise, for conversation.

In an apartment building, kids and women rot inside, as they can't just walk out in most places in Jeddah. As someone mentioned, muggings have increases in certain areas, and women, even when wearing an abaya, are always a target of horny teens in cars. (not abduction, just verbal harassment)

How nice would it be for your wife to take your kids outside in the late afternoon around the compound for a walk, or go sit at the pool, and when you come back from work, you directly come to the pool and have a nice time with your family?

In an apartment, either your are inside, or if outside, in a car (talking about families with kids here). And this mechanical lifestyle with rare access to nature or to physical exercise, leads to depression, laziness, obesity, and just being sick of life.

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To each his own, but the fact of the matter is, compounds are far better for anybody's physical, mental, and emotional health, and these factors all contribute to it:

1) Clean inside, without rubbish (all Jeddah streets are liberally strewn with garbage) or overflowing raw sewage (as frequently happens to apartment buildings).

2) Lots of greenery, with the air being cleaner and cooler at night by up to a few degrees.

3) Availability of pools, a gym, tennis/badminton courts, and even billiards/ping pong. In the city, next to impossible, and only for men.

4) Nice large windows which let in sunlight all day long.

5) Free of noise pollution, which plagues the city. At night, in many parts of the city it is hard to sleep at night because of cars passing by, but a compound is eerily quiet at night.

6) For women and children, no worries if they walk out any time of the day or night, for whatever reason. And for women, having a store inside is also great (for men too), and the privilege to exercise, which is available to perhaps <2% of the women here. Kids can ride around in bikes (dangerous outside, with the cars around).

7) People on compounds hold barbecues regularly, which is a nice time to socialize and eat in a calm clean area in public. Impossible to do in the city, unless one lives in a house or in a villa.

8 ) Even accessibility to domestic help. There are several maids who visit compounds throughout the week, going around different houses for a few hours each. All you do is contact one of them, and fix the days and hours for her to come by just to provide a helping hand (great because out inthe city, this is hard, and most people keep full-time live-in maids). Sometimes, what my friends have done, is hire for a few hours a week, some of the live-in maids on compounds (of course with the permission of their "masters").

9) Heck, even the architecture, and the interior layout and floor tilings. Apartment buildings feel too industrial, and can lead to depression in susceptible individuals. Compound units have a nice functional layout, with warm colors and textures (of walls, tiles, etc), and definitely very warm and inviting furniture, with a lot of it solid wood. (which would cost a pretty penny if buying for an apartment outside)

10) And oh yeah, having a taxi service inside is very good, esp in emergencies, for women.

That's all I can think of now... I am sure I am missing some.

As I said, to each his own.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trapezius suggests that living on a compound in Saudi is better than renting an apartment. I'd agree. I lived on one of the cheaper compounds but still enjoyed the facilities. For example, supermarket open ALL day, nice restaurant where you could take your own refreshments, and sane drivers. Arriving home was actually like escaping from the Magic Kingdom.
One drawback, though. Selfish residents who sat out drinking and listening to their favourite tunes until the sun came up.
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