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Shan-Shan
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Though I doubt that the mainland will be following such trends soon, that renegade province of theirs has begun, in great earnest, to raise the requirements for teaching English at the university level. Now, this is not teaching Linguistics or SLA theory, but plain old language teaching:
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Hello Listmembers,
I recently posted a message saying that Mingchuan
University was one of the few in Taiwan that will
accept non Ph.Ds for language teaching positions. I
stand corrected. I have just been informed that they
now are looking for doctorates...so you need a Ph.D to
teach EFL in Taiwan now. And the salaries are 1/3 to
1/2 of what they are in HK for a Masters...good luck
and happy teaching...Steve
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I guess that the demand in Taiwan, at least, is not growing. Things are looking rosier all the time! |
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boubou
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| Euh???? Who with the hel* wants to teach English as a foreign language in Taiwan and has a PHd????? Clearly the demande is lower, but still, I don't know many people who have obtained their PHd who would even think of teaching in a foreign country.... Any-one on this forum?? |
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Jordean
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| boubou wrote: |
| Euh???? Who with the hel* wants to teach English as a foreign language in Taiwan and has a PHd????? Clearly the demande is lower, but still, I don't know many people who have obtained their PHd who would even think of teaching in a foreign country.... Any-one on this forum?? |
I have the Ph.D. and J.D., and I would gladly teach overseas. We're talking university positions, however. |
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u24tc
Joined: 14 May 2007
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Location: Dalian, China
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep, I can confirm Ming Chuan Uni in Taiwan require Phd's for all teaching positions. |
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william wallace
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I've been posting and saying this about ESL/EFL for a few years now, and I try to discourage young folk from coming into ESL/EFL,or at least have a short timeline before heading home.The internet has made ESL/EFL teachers a dime/shilling a dozen.
You've got everyone and their cousin "doing" ESL in China (a *beep* global ESL phenomenon). Any ESL school that now speaks/writes of the 80s:" Travel the world and make big bucks" should offer a free 8-track player with a sticker "Keep On Truckin" on the players side.
Over the years I've been PM'd about 100-200 times from newbies.And while my gist is don't come into it(ESL); but,in some cases they know what they're doing, so I withhold my comments-But not always.
THE WRITING IN ON THE WALL |
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william wallace
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I've been posting and saying this about ESL/EFL for a few years now, and I try to discourage young folk from coming into ESL/EFL,or at least have a short timeline before heading home.The internet has made ESL/EFL teachers a dime/shilling a dozen.
You've got everyone and their cousin "doing" ESL in China (a que.er global ESL phenomenon). Any ESL school that now speaks/writes of the 80s:" Travel the world and make big bucks" should offer a free 8-track player with a sticker "Keep On Truckin" on the players side.
Over the years I've been PM'd about 100-200 times from newbies.And while my gist is don't come into it(ESL); but,in some cases they know what they're doing, so I withhold my comments-But not always.
THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL |
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Anda
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Jiangsu Province
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Jordean here in Asia Uni teaching has changed greatly with some University placing English instutites on campus where you work for instutite pay and conditions. This includes holidays. The thing common in China are 10 month contracts where you get no Summer holiday pay. There are good places to work but there is also a lot of bad joints.
The other thing is that you have to earn their respect. A lot of our lot have made a bad name for us. So don't come over here to Asia thinking everything is going to be easy. |
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malu
Joined: 22 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| boubou wrote: |
| I don't know many people who have obtained their PHd who would even think of teaching in a foreign country.... Any-one on this forum?? |
Why ever not? My PhD has been very useful when it comes to landing good subject teaching jobs at posh schools. I get far more benefit from my 'Dr.' prefix in Asia than I ever got back home in the UK. |
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