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eslstudies · Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 1061 Location: East of Aden

This is just a theoretical scenario. It only has limited anecdotal support.

Marcia is white and from an English speaking country. She's keen to try her hand at teaching English in China. She's an attractive and well spoken young woman, and Zhou Baijiu, a language school owner, thinks she'd be good for business. The problem is that she has no parchments that could be used to convince the Labor Bureau that she meets government requirements.
No problem. Mr Zhou's got a stack of them on his hard drive. He photoshops Marcia's name onto one of them, and hey presto, she gets an FEC. He doesn't tell her he's done this, as apparently some Westerners have strange ideas, and may not like to be implicated in forgery.
So Marcia tells her friends she's teaching in China and qualifications aren't needed. She posts on here to the same tune, and even dumps, very politely, on those who suggest that they are.

A possibility?[/b]

jeffinflorida · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject:

Highly likely and probably a broadly instituted practice...

Anda · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province

Um, reminds me of the good old days in South Korea! A friend of mine who had no degree went for a job and was accepted but told to tell the students he had such and such a degree. A few weeks later he was called into the officeand things went like this: It's about your degree I'm afraid! Friend goes into shock and then is told: We have new students who want a teacher with a business degree so now you must tell the students that you have a business degree! Copies everything was on hand! You have to laugh at how easy it is to get a bit of paper!

In those good old days I've gone in for a job and when asked did I have a degree I have responded by sticking half a dozen copies on the table and asking which they liked best! I's been fun to watch reactions, never ever got a rejection however. I'm talking 1990 it is another game nowadays.

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

Shan-Shan · Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 1074 Location: electric pastures

arioch36 · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589

No No, say it ain't so! Embarassed

Well said

Anda · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province

Hello Vikuk as you can see I have been in this game since 1990. These days I have a real grad dip and have worked for government schools in South Korea and now China. I check out okay. Tell us what type of degree and experience do you have. And what big money and conditions you are on? You seem to worry about competition a lot! It took them three years to get someone to work where I'm working so do I threaten you? Their are 40 plus thousand of our lot here in China and only a few post here on Dave's so like it or not this game is supply and demand like other jobs back home. My wages are mid range not the bottom as you make out. I also have a 15 hour working week with plenty of holidays. Are you happy where you work? Do you fit in? Why are you working in China when you seem so concerned about money?

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

good post Anda - by the way you still haven't explained

Anda · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Jiangsu Province

The context was South Korea. Nowadays it is as below. If you wanted too you still could play the game if you wanted too. The old days a black and white copy was enough. Here is like Korea in the 1990s in the case of instutites.

http://www.flying-cows.com/index.php/visa_process.html

vikuk · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 1842

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898